Will COD be a 'no-cd' start up

[Falke]

Will COD be a 'no-cd' start up as 1946 was? I sure hate to risk damaging the CD/DVD by always putting it in and taking it out.

[Tacoma74]

You double posted my friend ;)

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19072

[Falke]

Thanks, I'm aware of that, sorry though I wasn't at the time of the first posting, aware there was an official "COD" forum. A small mistake that doesn't change the question.

[speculum jockey]

Thanks, I'm aware of that, sorry though I wasn't at the time of the first posting, aware there was an official "COD" forum. A small mistake that doesn't change the question.

I can't imagine it would require the DVD in the drive given the announced DRM. If you're going to rely on online authentication, the DVD is no longer going to be a factor in pirating (hopefully).

[Skoshi Tiger]

Will COD be a 'no-cd' start up as 1946 was? I sure hate to risk damaging the CD/DVD by always putting it in and taking it out.

My copy 1946 requires a DVD to start. AFAIK its only no cd when you got a steam install or mods, which as you know is not supported.

[Tvrdi]

well, we have download/digital version.....no DVD

[Dano]

Considering that you need a Steam account to play if it also requires a disc in the drive for boxed copies then something is very amiss.

We received many questions about the Digital Rights Management solution used in IL2 : COD. we understand it is an important subject for many of you, and we are a glad to tell you that IL2 Sturmovik: Cliff of Dover will use the SolidShield DRM solution. SolidShield features a flexible activation process and allows for up to 3 simultaneous game installs.

Please note that the game will also use the Steam platform for services such as matchmaking, anti-cheat etc… So you will need a Steam account to play the game.



Though I do have to laugh at 'Avatar'.

http://il-2-sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-of-dovers/blog/uk/?p=1162

[Tvrdi]

so well need STEAM after all...ohh well....

[Hecke]

What the hell?

We REALLY need steam no matter what version we have?

[zauii]

Seems like a fine drm, and steam is excellent anyway, but wait for the awesome oldfarts to whine:

"Daem no!, Now I can't activate 8 times on all my 10 computers at the same day, and they must have a secret agenda.. installing files on my comp `n xxxx like that" - Whiners

[tintifaxl]

Seems like a fine drm, and steam is excellent anyway ...

Steam is as excellent as your ISP is. Mine is extremely flaky atm, so I wouldn't want an online check each time I start up the sim.

They should do it like DCS:A-10 does, activate the product at first start, then only if major components of the computer are changed.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Seems like a fine drm, and steam is excellent anyway, but wait for the awesome oldfarts to whine:

"Daem no!, Now I can't activate 8 times on all my 10 computers at the same day, and they must have a secret agenda.. installing files on my comp `n xxxx like that" - Whiners

More like whining 3l33t H4xx0r script kiddies complaining they can't get it from pirate bay because nobody cracked the DRM yet!

[Tvrdi]

Seems like a fine drm, and steam is excellent anyway, but wait for the awesome oldfarts to whine:

"Daem no!, Now I can't activate 8 times on all my 10 computers at the same day, and they must have a secret agenda.. installing files on my comp `n xxxx like that" - Whiners

nothing to do with old farts as you called us....my young and polite friend...probably with steam you can say goodbye to hyperloby and you know what that means....

[Kikuchiyo]

Steam is as excellent as your ISP is. Mine is extremely flaky atm, so I wouldn't want an online check each time I start up the sim.

They should do it like DCS:A-10 does, activate the product at first start, then only if major components of the computer are changed.

so use Steam in offline mode. If your ISP is that flaky you aren't going to be playing online anyway, right? What's more if you think that in "online" mode Steam will cut you out playing your game mid mission this is incorrect. It only verifies at initial launch (and only if you are in Steam Online mode).

[Kikuchiyo]

probably with steam you can say goodbye to hyperloby and you know what that means....

Yep.......means you get something extremely similar with Steam.

[tintifaxl]

so use Steam in offline mode. If your ISP is that flaky you aren't going to be playing online anyway, right? What's more if you think that in "online" mode Steam will cut you out playing your game mid mission this is incorrect. It only verifies at initial launch (and only if you are in Steam Online mode).

I don't want to switch Steam to offline mode, because I do play online games with Steam, too. But when my ISP decides to crap out during my gaming time, I want to fly offline single player campaigns or missions.

[Tvrdi]

Yep.......means you get something extremely similar with Steam.

hah really? HP with all its simplicity and "easy to use/find room" vs st..t..t..eeaaaam....g...gg....gaaamm...eeerzzz

[Kikuchiyo]

hah really? HP with its all simplicity and "easy to use/find room" vs st..t..t..eeaaaam....g...gg....gaaamm...eeerzzz

Not really sure what you mean there. Steam lobby: invite friends, see lists of servers, play game (not necessarily in that order). Use built in voice chat.


I don't want to switch Steam to offline mode, because I do play online games with Steam, too. But when my ISP decides to crap out during my gaming time, I want to fly offline single player campaigns or missions.

If you lose network connection mid game Steam doesn't kick you out of the game. If you are on a MP server it will tell you that you've lost connection and drop you to the main menu. You would then just choose SP. If you quit out of the game you will have to go through the trouble of closing Steam, starting it back up, and when it says no network could be found you click the big button that says "Start Steam in Offline mode," play game.

Edit: I'm beginning to suspect a lot of the naysayers haven't used Steam much, or in about a half decade. It certainly had a lot of issues back about 5 or 6 years ago, but those issues have mostly been corrected.

[tintifaxl]

... If you quit out of the game you will have to go through the trouble of closing Steam, starting it back up, and when it says no network could be found you click the big button that says "Start Steam in Offline mode," play game.

Edit: I'm beginning to suspect a lot of the naysayers haven't used Steam much, or in about a half decade. It certainly had a lot of issues back about 5 or 6 years ago, but those issues have mostly been corrected.

When did they implement that? When I was playing TW:Napoleon I'm positive that I couldn't play without inet access. If this is working as you said, then of course I will rest my case, as that is totally acceptable.

Btw, I've been using Steam for many years now for my CS:S experience ...


Edit: But I do have a network available, albeit without internet, so maybe that's the reason for the behavior experienced by me?

[Kikuchiyo]

Edit: But I do have a network available, albeit without internet, so maybe that's the reason for the behavior experienced by me?

Yes it is referring to your ISP's network not your local LAN. I can see how that might have caused some confusion for you. Likely you should set Steam to offline mode if you have no internet connection. I can't say I know how NTW handles LAN games.

[zauii]

hah really? HP with all its simplicity and "easy to use/find room" vs st..t..t..eeaaaam....g...gg....gaaamm...eeerzzz

Tbh , hyperlobby is a mess for the untrained eye, its a great 3rd party platform but lets face it , its dated, its old, its ugly , it sounds terrible and you can probably mod all that away in a heartbeat, still Steam would be way easier, more clean and fluid.

Because a product uses steam does not mean that the game will/won't have certain features.

[Falke]

You guys high-jacked the thread... I'm not sure I got an answer to the original question, so I'll ask again. Does anyone know if COD be a "no cd" start up?



To Skoshi Tiger - (From first page)... Skoshi, I have 1946 too and have never needed the DVD to start up... Just installed it, put the DVD in the box threw it on the shelf and played away... Strange.

[Kikuchiyo]

You guys high-jacked the thread... I'm not sure I got an answer to the original question, so I'll ask again. Does anyone know if COD be a "no cd" start up?



To Skoshi Tiger - (From first page)... Skoshi, I have 1946 too and have never needed the DVD to start up... Just installed it, put the DVD in the box threw it on the shelf and played away... Strange.

If it uses Steam (as seems to be the case) yes.

[123-Wulf-123]

Seems like a fine drm, and steam is excellent anyway, but wait for the awesome oldfarts to whine:

"Daem no!, Now I can't activate 8 times on all my 10 computers at the same day, and they must have a secret agenda.. installing files on my comp `n xxxx like that" - Whiners


Idiot.

[swiss]

Tbh , hyperlobby is a mess for the untrained eye, its a great 3rd party platform but lets face it , its dated, its old, its ugly , it sounds terrible and you can probably mod all that away in a heartbeat, still Steam would be way easier, more clean and fluid.



HL has a sound folder, just delete the sounds you don't like(i did).
HL also has several skins, maybe you find one you like.

But actually I don't give a flying F*** what it looks like, it's a progi I barely use 30seconds before I start the game. It could be a b/w dos window for all I care.


If someone tells me the big advantages of steam is I can play the game from wherever I want, he's an moron.
While I could play from a laptop, which indeed makes it highly mobile - the rest of the necessary equipment is not - all this heavy bulky stuff.

[Skoshi Tiger]

To Skoshi Tiger - (From first page)... Skoshi, I have 1946 too and have never needed the DVD to start up... Just installed it, put the DVD in the box threw it on the shelf and played away... Strange.

Weird, maybe something to do with the region, mines a securecom message. (i'm patched to 4.10)

Cheers!
http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b423/Skoshi_Tiger/il2cd.jpg

[TheGrunch]

Same here also.

[KG26_Alpha]

Tbh , hyperlobby is a mess for the untrained eye, its a great 3rd party platform but lets face it , its dated, its old, its ugly , it sounds terrible and you can probably mod all that away in a heartbeat, still Steam would be way easier, more clean and fluid.

Because a product uses steam does not mean that the game will/won't have certain features.

Would be interesting to know how many times you have donated to HL over the last 10 years of its free non committal existence.

Its the way of the world these days so many ungrateful people clicking the "want want want" button ignoring the "give" sign.

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[TheGrunch]

Perhaps that's true, but really the only reason to use HL is that the majority of the online community uses it. Xfire is just as good, just as free and isn't a chore to use. Same goes for Steam. In fact, most of my favourite Il-2:1946 servers are advertised on Xfire as well.

[JG52Uther]

Start HL,see my squaddies online,choose which online war I want to fly,as they all have their own 'rooms' in HL,such as AFW,IL2 war etc, click on an empty space and wait for the host to start the game.Chat to people and give help to newbies while I wait.
Works for me.
And if anyone is still using securom and the dvd in the drive they have my sympathies!

[TheGrunch]

And if anyone is still using securom and the dvd in the drive they have my sympathies!
Yeah, installing a no-CD is pretty much compulsory for me every time I install the game. Although to be fair, don't play many other games, could just leave the DVD in. ;)