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Royraiden
02-27-2011, 11:14 PM
I was wondering if there is any flight instructions film for the 109.I have watched several films like this but they were all made by the USAAF,and one film of the IL-2.I tried searching for the 109 as well as the FW190, same for the Hurries and Spits but found nothing.If they actually did this kind of film and you know where to find one please guide me to it.

Im talking about stuff like these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1HroczeuqE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6HbmQLcDUI

Royraiden
02-28-2011, 08:11 PM
No one?:confused:

Codex
03-01-2011, 04:16 AM
No one?:confused:

I promise to watch them when I get home from work :-P

In all seriousness though I'd say allot of instructional films may have been taken or destroyed when Germany fell. I know there is an instructional film flying around (ha I made a funny) on YouTube on how to start up a Me262. I've personally got a DVD, I forget the title, showing how they prep'd and fired a V2. They are around you just have to dig for them. I'd even try sites dedicated to the history of WW2 e.g. http://forum.axishistory.com/ or http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/index.html

Royraiden
03-01-2011, 05:03 AM
I promise to watch them when I get home from work :-P

In all seriousness though I'd say allot of instructional films may have been taken or destroyed when Germany fell. I know there is an instructional film flying around (ha I made a funny) on YouTube on how to start up a Me262. I've personally got a DVD, I forget the title, showing how they prep'd and fired a V2. They are around you just have to dig for them. I'd even try sites dedicated to the history of WW2 e.g. http://forum.axishistory.com/ or http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/index.html

Thanks for the guidance.I also believe much of this stuff got destroyed but at least some must be there somewhere.

Ltbear
03-01-2011, 01:22 PM
A few years ago i wondered about this my self, But after reading books and the internet i kinda got an answer.

German doctrine for training pilots early war was from gliderschools. In the beginning Luftwaffe got recruits who all ready knew about flying. This createt the foundation how they set the training up.

Luftwaffe createt a style of training that was more a study combined with flying lessons. Movies was not general used for this, it was more read, learn test.

What luftwaffe used movies for was tactical training. Attacks on enemy planes etc.

Only late war did they use a few movies, but werry little are known about them and so far i have seen none. Nazy Germany used movies as pr, but kept to a strict school style training for the pilots.

Hope it helps abit
L.T

Royraiden
03-01-2011, 02:12 PM
A few years ago i wondered about this my self, But after reading books and the internet i kinda got an answer.

German doctrine for training pilots early war was from gliderschools. In the beginning Luftwaffe got recruits who all ready knew about flying. This createt the foundation how they set the training up.

Luftwaffe createt a style of training that was more a study combined with flying lessons. Movies was not general used for this, it was more read, learn test.

What luftwaffe used movies for was tactical training. Attacks on enemy planes etc.

Only late war did they use a few movies, but werry little are known about them and so far i have seen none. Nazy Germany used movies as pr, but kept to a strict school style training for the pilots.

Hope it helps abit
L.T

Thanks for sharing.I honestly would have loved to get to see one, but it seems there are none.How about the RAF?I havent found anything either,they did the same as the Luftwaffe?

Blackdog_kt
03-01-2011, 10:48 PM
I seem to recall reading an article on a local military history magazine and part of the reason for the lack of such films might also be the vast amounts of destroyed film during the bombing of Dresden. Film canisters measuring dozens of kilometers of celluloid strips where kept in the basement of a church in Dresden, i think it was actually part of the luftwaffe archives.

During the bombing the church didn't receive a direct hit, but the use of incendiary bombs on the city for 2 days straight had created a lot of massive fires. Since celluloid is flammable, most of the films ignited due to the increase in the ambient air temperature destroying both the archives and the church in the process. I think the church has since been rebuilt as a memorial to the civilians who died in the raids.

Now i don't know what kind of footage they kept there, it could have been reels of guncam films and not instructional videos, but it would be nice to have access to them nevertheless. Especially since the Germans are always so crazy about documenting everything, it would be a museum in its own right if it had survived :-P

Porsche
03-02-2011, 01:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzQ8N30NEiM&playnext=1&list=PL095D22FCC2FA0E

Messerschmitt Bf 110 G-3 aerial reconnaissance in WWII

This is all I could find...

Royraiden
03-02-2011, 01:41 AM
I seem to recall reading an article on a local military history magazine and part of the reason for the lack of such films might also be the vast amounts of destroyed film during the bombing of Dresden. Film canisters measuring dozens of kilometers of celluloid strips where kept in the basement of a church in Dresden, i think it was actually part of the luftwaffe archives.

During the bombing the church didn't receive a direct hit, but the use of incendiary bombs on the city for 2 days straight had created a lot of massive fires. Since celluloid is flammable, most of the films ignited due to the increase in the ambient air temperature destroying both the archives and the church in the process. I think the church has since been rebuilt as a memorial to the civilians who died in the raids.

Now i don't know what kind of footage they kept there, it could have been reels of guncam films and not instructional videos, but it would be nice to have access to them nevertheless. Especially since the Germans are always so crazy about documenting everything, it would be a museum in its own right if it had survived :-P
Makes sense,although I do believe that a lot of german films may have been destroyed on purpose by the allies after the end of the war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzQ8N30NEiM&playnext=1&list=PL095D22FCC2FA0E

Messerschmitt Bf 110 G-3 aerial reconnaissance in WWII

This is all I could find...

Great find!Thanks.

Royraiden
03-02-2011, 01:53 AM
Found this but cant play the vids on the website can any one see if they work?
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

Porsche
03-02-2011, 01:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqqwpb9BnPQ&feature=related

I thought this video was good as well. Hope you guys like....

Royraiden
03-02-2011, 02:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqqwpb9BnPQ&feature=related

I thought this video was good as well. Hope you guys like....

Great stuff again, I had seen this one some time ago but I liked it a lot.The guncam footage on this one is great.

Royraiden
03-03-2011, 04:12 PM
Found something from the Luftwaffe I had not seen before,better yet it is translated to English.ME 262 training flim:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8989132302692103060#

Sauf
03-03-2011, 08:34 PM
Found this one for the sturmovk, booklet not film, would be nice to have something like this for the 109

http://www.allworldwars.com/IL-2-Illustrated-Flight-Manual.html

Royraiden
03-03-2011, 08:42 PM
Found this one for the sturmovk, booklet not film, would be nice to have something like this for the 109

http://www.allworldwars.com/IL-2-Illustrated-Flight-Manual.html

Definitely, thanks for sharing.

Crossfade
03-03-2011, 11:41 PM
Found this but cant play the vids on the website can any one see if they work?
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

just get ca codec pack for wmv get then you can watch them;)

Royraiden
03-03-2011, 11:51 PM
just get ca codec pack for wmv get then you can watch them;)

Thanks, I had one but uninstalled it, my wmp is screwed up for some reason.I got the k-lite codec pack.