World Wide Purchasing & Distribution

[322Sqn_Dusty]

You haven't found it yet

Correct...Ubisoft the Netherlands won't sell it in the Netherlands. The only version that will be officially released will be the digital version. Yes, it has been confirmed by Ubisoft the Netherlands by phone.

Nog geen collectors editie gevonden in Nederland?

Correct, Ubisoft Nederland verkoopt ze hier niet. De enige versie die hier (officieel) te koop zal zijn is de download versie. Ja, ik heb hiervoor met Ubisoft zelf gebeld en die hebben dit medegedeeld.

[Sven]

:evil: A sad day in the history of The Netherlands, guess we can still get it from the UK though?

[Daniël]

NEE! Dat meen je niet! Sh*t... Maar hoe zit het met de gewone? Is die verkrijgbaar?

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Download only.

Alleen digitaal te downloaden.

Always possible to buy foreign versions.

Uit het buitenland kan je ze uiteraard gewoon bestellen.

[Daniël]

OK. Then I should go to Finland to buy it. I go there twice a year to visit family and friends. But the waiting takes too long:(
Dan maar naar Finland. Ik ga daar twee keer per jaar naar toe om familie en vrienden op te bezoeken. Maar het wachten duurt te lang:(

[Testus01]

Check this: http://www.amazon.de/2-Sturmovic-Cliffs-Dover-Collectors/dp/B004JM5C62/

69.99 € for the collector's edition

49.99 € for the standard version

No PC requirements yet.

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

ik dacht het al wel ergens anders gelezen te hebben, bedankt voor het slechte nieuws Dusty.

[Bloblast]

Check this: http://www.amazon.de/2-Sturmovic-Cliffs-Dover-Collectors/dp/B004JM5C62/

69.99 € for the collector's edition

49.99 € for the standard version

No PC requirements yet.


Ook geen gewone versies in de winkel dus !
OK, dan bestel ik de collector's versie bij Amazon.de met extra snelle levering uiteraard.

[ghodan]

zijn alle symbolen wel intact bij de duitse versie?

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Afgezien van de taal zal er geen verschil zijn?
Uit de discussie met 1C haal ik dat de wetten in Rusland onduidelijk zijn omtrend de kenmerken van oa. Duitsland *) en Finland.... onduidelijkheid=niet opgenomen.

No difference except the language used?
Discussions with 1C imho revealed that according the unclear law in Russia of national markings of eg. Germany*) and Finland.. unclear law=not embedded.

*) Swastikas

See: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=18269

[352ndBushpilot]

Dat is mooi balen!

That's too bad!

I like a boxed version, just to place it on the shelf :)

cheers,

352ndBP

[ghodan]

Ik kan het ook de collector edition niet vinden op amazon uk

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Geen Cliffs of Dover special in de Uk zal raar zijn he? De machine is al in gang gezet om er een aantal naar de NL te halen.

[ScreamingEagle]

Download only.

Alleen digitaal te downloaden.

Always possible to buy foreign versions.

Uit het buitenland kan je ze uiteraard gewoon bestellen.

Het is gewoon lachwekkend en een minachting aan ons als dat waar zou zijn.
Mijn mening hoor.
Ik ga in iedergeval niet betalen voor een download versie.
Blijf ik wel gewoon de oude IL2 vliegen. :)

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Het is gewoon lachwekkend en een minachting aan ons als dat waar zou zijn.
Mijn mening hoor.
Ik ga in iedergeval niet betalen voor een download versie.
Blijf ik wel gewoon de oude IL2 vliegen. :)

Tsja, ik zie het al gebeuren dat je geen verbinding kan maken met het net en er is iets met het spel waardoor je opnieuw moet installeren, ervan uitgaande dat je geen backup bij de hand hebt van het systeem dan he. In ons geval tijdens een evenement..wat mij trouwens nog steeds brengt bij de beveiliging van het spel, ik hoop niet dat het op internet moet worden gecontroleerd of het origineel is, dit heb ik nog niet gehoord...whoops..

in short:

you downloaded CofD, there's something wrong and you must reinstall..but no internet where you are at that moment....also the security, i hope it's not needed to have a net connection to play> not clear yet.

[Sven]

Het is gewoon lachwekkend en een minachting aan ons als dat waar zou zijn.
Mijn mening hoor.
Ik ga in iedergeval niet betalen voor een download versie.
Blijf ik wel gewoon de oude IL2 vliegen. :)

Ik vind het ook uiterst vreemd dat er zelfs geen normale boxed versie is, eigenlijk vind ik dit niet kunnen! Sinds wanneer worden wij overgeslagen? Zelfs Black Shark heb ik in Nederland kunnen krijgen, boxed. Dit gaan een hoop mensen niet leuk vinden, maar ja, het zij zo, ik laat me niet uit het veld slaan, ook al houd ik niet van downloads, dat mag niet in de weg staan voor deze veel belovende sim!

[ghodan]

Als het echt niet verkocht wordt door de normale winkels (bol.com,freerecordshop,dixons enz) dan kan je het altijd nog hier halen:

http://www.simw.com/ (Belgie)
http://www.aviationmegastore.com/ (schippol-rijk)

[Sven]

Is het in België wel verkrijgbaar, boxed? Dat zou mooi uitkomen, dan kan ik er in Antwerpen om, ook leuk tourtje voor de Kreidler:)

[Bloblast]

Gezien de reacties op het forum is er in de andere Europese landen ook alleen een download versie beschikbaar. Uitzondering is UK

Op mijn werk met een UK server kan ik op de UBI UK store komen en is de collectors edition te koop voor GBP 50.

Probeer ik thuis via UPC op de Engelse UBI store te komen wordt ik automatisch doorgeleid naar UBI Nederlandse store.

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Gezien de reacties op het forum is er in de andere Europese landen ook alleen een download versie beschikbaar. Uitzondering is UK

Op mijn werk met een UK server kan ik op de UBI UK store komen en is de collectors edition te koop voor GBP 50.

Probeer ik thuis via UPC op de Engelse UBI store te komen wordt ik automatisch doorgeleid naar UBI Nederlandse store.

Klopt. Dat had ik ook... maar daar kan je omheen. Neem een UK proxy server ;) Maar dat je zelfs al niet meer kan beslissen waar je koopt.....

[Sven]

Waarom zou Ubisoft voor deze manier gekozen hebben? Volgens mij worden de meeste games die legitiem gekocht worden nog steeds in een winkel verkocht of heb ik dat mis? Voor zover ik weet was Silent Hunter 5 ( toch bedoeld voor een kleiner publiek ) ook overal te koop als hardcopy. Het is voor de uitgever natuurlijk wel veel gemakkelijker op deze manier, en levert meer geld voor ze op, maar aangezien het Flight sim publiek toch wat ouder is dan bij andere genres, zijn meer mensen vertrouwd met een CD en een doosje. Ik weet niet of dit het nieuwe verkoop plan is van Ubisoft voor alle toekomstige titels, en als andere uitgevers dat ook gaan doen kan de lokale game-store z'n deuren wel sluiten.:(

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

vraag het eens aan ze. Een duidelijk antwoord zul je toch niet krijgen.

[Sven]

vraag het eens aan ze. Een duidelijk antwoord zul je toch niet krijgen.


Ik denk dat je er pas achteraf antwoord op krijgt, en dan heeft het al geen zin meer. Vreemde vogels die Ubisofters;)

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Tja, waarom kies je voor zoiets?

Kosten zullen waarschijnlijk de reden zijn. Geen doos, geen cd/dvd, geen manual, geen grote transport kosten en alles makkelijk bij jou op de pc...hoppa.... tot er iets mis is. Servers die plat liggen, kijk maar naar de problemen die er geweest zijn bij o.a. steam etc..


The most probable cause of why Ubisoft offers more downloads then the really nice boxed (special) editions are the costs. No need for box, cd/dvd manuals or transportation costs..and maybe the 'ease'for the consumer of getting it right where it should be..till trouble hits it, servers that are offline or other problems discussed before eg steam...

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

je beantwoord je eigen vragen al.

[Azimech]

I'll have to order it in the UK then. Ubisuckers.

[1.JaVA_Jumper]

Hallo mannen

ik zag 2 prijzen van 50,= en van 70,=

waar zit hem het verschil in

gr 1.JaVA_Jumper:cool:

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Waar gezien? De download is €49,99

[kingpinda]

Hallo mannen

ik zag 2 prijzen van 50,= en van 70,=

waar zit hem het verschil in

gr 1.JaVA_Jumper:cool:

Erm collectors editie and the standard (edit:digital) edition?

And well... link on the first page: Amazon.de
Lol sprache deutch... I'm not, in my right mind, going to buy the best fracking sim in german :p NOR IN DUTCH hehe. Reminds me of a lan party where we in a weird mood started playing risk over the lan. And someone installed the dutch version. Aanvalsfase! beweeg troepen fase! lol

I'll try to order the UK version then by some means. Or maybe the digital download if all fails. I think i read somewhere that a steam version will be available at some point.

ps: Kolonisten van catan is leuk :p Wat hebben ze JOUW in de thee gestopt!
Niemand wil met mij ruilen Waarom wil er niemand met mij ruilen? :p

[Azimech]

Op zich leuk om een verzameling kaaskoppen hier te hebben.

[ScreamingEagle]

Op zich leuk om een verzameling kaaskoppen hier te hebben.

Waar?

:)

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

Op zich leuk om een verzameling kaaskoppen hier te hebben.

Kaaskop? Dan heb je het toch echt over jezelf hoor.

[352ndBushpilot]

Deze cheesehead is in het diepe gesprongen.:grin:

Net de collector's edition besteld, via amazon.de. Leverdatum: 1 april. Als dat maar geen grap is :confused:

Ik ben benieuwd wanneer ze mijn creditcard chargen. Iemand daar ervaring mee met pre-orderen?

cheers,

352ndBP

http://www.352ndfg.com/vb/content.php

[Daniël]

Hup Holland hup ;)

[Azimech]

Okee okee, verzameling lieden die nederlands schrijven :)

[ScreamingEagle]

Okee okee, verzameling lieden die nederlands schrijven :)

Ohhhhh, zeg dat dan :-P

[Razorhead]

Deze cheesehead is in het diepe gesprongen.:grin:

Net de collector's edition besteld, via amazon.de. Leverdatum: 1 april. Als dat maar geen grap is :confused:

Ik ben benieuwd wanneer ze mijn creditcard chargen. Iemand daar ervaring mee met pre-orderen?

cheers,

352ndBP

http://www.352ndfg.com/vb/content.php

Bij play.com chargen ze je CC pas als de order wordt verstuurd.

[WhiteSnake]

Nee he, dat meen je niet, ik wou die Collectors Edition...

Download versie hoef ik echt niet :mad:

Ik wil gewoon een normale versie kunnen kopen op schijf, geen gezeik!

kans word steeds minder en minder dat ik hem ga kopen nu,
A: In maart komen minsten 2 andere games uit die ik echt wil hebben.
B: UBI-Softs nieuwe DRM.
C: 50 euro voor alleen Battle Of Britain.
D: Straks zeker ook nog leker kunnen gaan betalen voor nieuwe vliegtuigen en maps...
E: Slechte ervaringen met Download versies van games.

Mischien heeft een handtekening topic zin hier waar alle nederlandse spelers hun stem kunnen laten horen/zien dat ze ook gewoon de game als Collectors Edition of als Normale Editie op Schijf willen kunnen kopen.

[Sven]

Nee he, dat meen je niet, ik wou die Collectors Edition...

Download versie hoef ik echt niet :mad:

Ik wil gewoon een normale versie kunnen kopen op schijf, geen gezeik!

kans word steeds minder en minder dat ik hem ga kopen nu,
A: In maart komen minsten 2 andere games uit die ik echt wil hebben.
B: UBI-Softs nieuwe DRM.
C: 50 euro voor alleen Battle Of Britain.
D: Straks zeker ook nog leker kunnen gaan betalen voor nieuwe vliegtuigen en maps...
E: Slechte ervaringen met Download versies van games.

Mischien heeft een handtekening topic zin hier waar alle nederlandse spelers hun stem kunnen laten horen/zien dat ze ook gewoon de game als Collectors Edition of als Normale Editie op Schijf willen kunnen kopen.


Nou voor B C D hoef je je geen zorgen te maken,

B: Geen DRM , eenmalige activatie.
C: Bijna alle spellen zijn 50 euro, van arcade shooters tot vol realistische sims, en BoB was nogal groot hoor!
D: Voor expansion packs ja, net als IL2, geen RoF style.

En ja het is duur, maar ja, dat is het altijd als je toch iets exclusiever wil hebben, een vliegtuigsimulatie, bovendien heb ik vele uren plezier van elke sim die ik speel, ik vind het zijn geld wel waard.

[322Sqn_Bbird]

Deze cheesehead is in het diepe gesprongen.:grin:

Net de collector's edition besteld, via amazon.de. Leverdatum: 1 april. Als dat maar geen grap is :confused:

Ik ben benieuwd wanneer ze mijn creditcard chargen. Iemand daar ervaring mee met pre-orderen?

cheers,

352ndBP

http://www.352ndfg.com/vb/content.php

Zit ook te denken om de collectors editie via Amazon.de te gaan bestellen, maar is deze dan Engelstalig of alleen in het Duits?
Is het alleen de Duitse versie dan is het voor mij een no go.

[kingpinda]

Zit ook te denken om de collectors editie via Amazon.de te gaan bestellen, maar is deze dan Engelstalig of alleen in het Duits?
Is het alleen de Duitse versie dan is het voor mij een no go.

Er staat "sprache deutch" ... Er zijn maar weinig spellen uitgekomen in duitsland die meer talen ondersteunen.. Nasynchroniseren is daar uitgevonden volgens mij. Dus... Ik neem aan dat het alleen duits is. Maar ik kan er naast zitten. Mail ze anders.

[JG27_brook]

Do we have any idear when hard copys will turn up in shops down under ?

[1.JaVA_Sjonnie]

@Dusty

U have a PM ;)

Ja leuk, al die kaaskoppen hier;)

Mij maakt het een beetje nerveus, ik wil een DVD want ik sleep straks mn PC weer naar Duitsland voor een LAN party (lowlandtigermeet.com) waar we CofD ook in willen opnemen.
Stel, mijn PC kapt er mee - zou niet de eerste keer zijn na vervoer - dan sta ik daar met een mond vol tanden voor 140 deelnemers...:!:

I am getting nervous about not being able to get a DVD version.
I will be dragging my rig to germany for a big LAN party where we want to use CofD along IL-2 (lowlandtigermeet.com) in april.
Suppose my rig cuts out - which is not unlikely after transport in a car - , what do I do? I want to be able to migrate to another PC!
I dont want to picture myself in front of a whole bunch of pilots explaining why we have no CofD;)

[4S_Nero]

Hoi Sjonnie. :grin::grin::grin::grin:

We will be oppenent again or you will fly with shining side with me?

:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::g rin::grin::grin:

[Ctrl E]

i too am keen for some news on this. lots of fans of oleg and co in oz.

[Coen020]

har har, nog een nederlander hier, vroeg me af jullie niet wat te snel zijn? misschien dat ubi het nog niet allemaal in orde heeft?

[1.JaVA_Sjonnie]

Hoi Sjonnie. :grin::grin::grin::grin:

We will be oppenent again or you will fly with shining side with me?

:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::g rin::grin::grin:

Nah.... You fly the G-50, I prefer Hurricane.... ;)

Come stai Nero? Tutto bene or what?;)

[Wolf_Rider]

EB still hasn't got it (as of Saturday last) listed yet for pre-order

[322Sqn_Dusty]

har har, nog een nederlander hier, vroeg me af jullie niet wat te snel zijn? misschien dat ubi het nog niet allemaal in orde heeft?

Ik heb direct contact met Ubi NL. KOMT NIET officieel naar Nederland. UBI NL heeft alleen download.

[kingpinda]

Ik heb direct contact met Ubi NL. KOMT NIET officieel naar Nederland. UBI NL heeft alleen download.

Bastards... nou dan wacht ik wel op steam als ik nergens de collectors edition kan kopen...

[_RAAF_Smouch]

As of today still not showing up on the Ubi shop (AU site) or EB games.

And even doing a Australian pages only google search is not real productive.

[Skoshi Tiger]

It is very frustrating. I really want to show my support for Oleg and Co by pre-ordering the Collectors edition, but can't.

I ended up buying ROF from ebay from over seas and it arrived a week or so before it got in the stores over here in WA. If Ubi can't get it's act into gear I may have to do the same for Bob!

Cheers!

[Screamadelica]

Ahh, that familiar feeling as the rough end of the pineapple is applied. Still hoping for something special from EB. Must have that boxed set!:)

[Wolf_Rider]

with pricing "starting at $89.99", I'm wondering what the collectors edition will cost though

[Coen020]

kunnen we niet aan een engelse forum member overhalen of ie een paar wilt aanschaffen en dat wij hem terugbetalen via paypal of w/e.

Ben hardop aan het nadenken...

[Screamadelica]

Looks like it will be fairly expensive. The Shogun 2 Total War Deluxe Set is coming in at $169 AUD, hopefully it won't be as much as that. Why are we charged so much especially with the Australian dollar being almost equal to the US dollar?:cry:

[Wolf_Rider]

yeah, but ya get a chess set with that one :)

duno about the pricing structure, some vga are marked up a huge amount... it can't cost $200 ea to ship a card out in bulk

[322Sqn_Dusty]

..Ik ga desnoods roeiend het kanaal over....must have .... snap het niet waarom je niet de UK site kan openen, mag toch zelf uitmaken waar ik koop?

[ghodan]

Welke UK site dan?
Amazon UK heeft hem niet eens. (en Amazon DE weer wel....weird)

[322Sqn_Bbird]

..Ik ga desnoods roeiend het kanaal over....must have .... snap het niet waarom je niet de UK site kan openen, mag toch zelf uitmaken waar ik koop?

Dusty bedoelt kopen via de webwinkel van Ubi in de UK. Als je die selecteert wordt je meteen doorgezet naar de Nederlandse webwinkel waar alleen de download versie te krijgen is.

Zoals Dusty al zegt, hebben we als 322Sqn rechtsreeks contact met Ubisoft in Nederland en die bevestigen zelfs dat ze de collectors versie niet naar Nederland kunnen halen :evil::evil:
Dit is wel een erg zware domper voor de Nederlandse Flightsim Community:-x

Mischien is het een idee om gezamelijk als Nederlandse Simmers een actie te starten naar UbiSoft, om alsnog de collectors editie in de shop te krijgen ?

[ghodan]

Kan iemand niet even bellen met simware in Belgie? (ben verlegen aan de tel... bel liever niet hehehehe)
http://www.simw.com/
tel shop in Belgie +32 2 331 25 09
Die hebben ook sims die je niet in de normale winkels tegen komt.
Vraag of ze de boxed versie krijgen en of ze de collectors edition gaan verkopen.

[Coen020]

Kan iemand niet even bellen met simware in Belgie? (ben verlegen aan de tel... bel liever niet hehehehe)
http://www.simw.com/
tel shop in Belgie +32 2 331 25 09
Die hebben ook sims die je niet in de normale winkels tegen komt.
Vraag of ze de boxed versie krijgen en of ze de collectors edition gaan verkopen.

Er bestaat ook zoiets als een email, ik heb ze even een mailtje gestuurd. Die was wel geschreven in het nederlands, hopelijk komt dat goed.

(ook gelijk gevraagd of ze versturen naar nederland)

Ik post het antwoord wel weer hier, als het er is.

[Azimech]

Fietsend het kanaal over zou ik niet erg vinden, maar roeien ben ik geen fan van. Jammer dat dat fietspad op de bodem ligt. Ik haat snorkelen.

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

Fietsend het kanaal over zou ik niet erg vinden, maar roeien ben ik geen fan van. Jammer dat dat fietspad op de bodem ligt. Ik haat snorkelen.

waarom zo moeilijk doen? in Den Helder liggen van die dingetjes met ingebouwde snorkel en ze zijn ook nog sneller dan de fiets....

[Azimech]

Je bedoelt een onderzeeboot? Wel een geinig idee ...

[julian265]

I like to get simple games through steam, but given the way updates have worked with IL2 and RoF I'd prefer to be able to choose when to apply any updates, and keep different versions on disk, which will hopefully be possible with CoD.

Looks like I'll have to pay the margin's of several useless middle-men again...

[Wolf_Rider]

Still no pre-order listing @ EB :cry:

[CadMan]

And it's NZ$99.95 on Ubi AU DL version

[Ctrl E]

Perhaps we should all email or call eb. It might give them a kick up the arse.

But agree. I will be peeved if it is slow coming out here and costs way more

[WTE_Galway]

Looks like it will be fairly expensive. The Shogun 2 Total War Deluxe Set is coming in at $169 AUD, hopefully it won't be as much as that. Why are we charged so much especially with the Australian dollar being almost equal to the US dollar?:cry:

Exchange rates are not necessarily related to retail prices.

I used to work for Harvey Norman Electrical in NSW back in the 90's.

We were importing electrical goods in Yen -- against which the Aussie dollar was rising, so we were getting them cheaper than ever.

However the Aussie dollar was falling against the US dollar -- so we were able to put all our prices on electrical goods UP by 10% (even though we were importing them cheaper) and blamed the government and the "bad Aussie dollar" for the price hike.

We made a fortune for a while.

[Screamadelica]

Ahh, so that's how it works. I'm guessing at the boxed set selling for around $129 AUD, or I'll eat Feuerfalke's shorts if Tree hasn't already digested them.:) I like the idea of bombarding the retailers with phone calls until we get some information. Will put in a call tomorrow.

[ghodan]

Heeft er al iemand gebeld naar Simware Belgie?
:grin:

[FS~Hawks]

I to are waiting for the hard copy for pre-order here in aus. Checking EB website waiting for it to be listed.
It is at ubi shop for $89.99 AU but i would rather have it on DVD

[Wolf_Rider]

Exchange rates are not necessarily related to retail prices.

I used to work for Harvey Norman Electrical in NSW back in the 90's.

We were importing electrical goods in Yen -- against which the Aussie dollar was rising, so we were getting them cheaper than ever.

However the Aussie dollar was falling against the US dollar -- so we were able to put all our prices on electrical goods UP by 10% (even though we were importing them cheaper) and blamed the government and the "bad Aussie dollar" for the price hike.

We made a fortune for a while.




H.N. has nothing on the fuel companies though... all that noise a while back at the low AUD$ and the high US$ (petrodollar/ reserve currency) = high fuel price, and look at the prices now with parity... no #$%*&! change [/rant]

[FS~Hawks]

H.N. has nothing on the fuel companies though... all that noise a while back at the low AUD$ and the high US$ (petrodollar/ reserve currency) = high fuel price, and look at the prices now with parity... no #$%*&! change [/rant]

1++ it has gone up here by 10c in the last month. before Chrissy it was 1.24 now 1.39

[machoo]

A good place to buy online is www.ozgameshop.com , Alot of new titles that are $100 or there abouts here are $50-60 on that site , shipping is also FREE and it comes from the UK which is pretty good.

Pretty much you save atleast %30. It's worth a look.

[Coen020]

Ok screw you all als het nu zo druk op die site wordt dat het binnen mum van tijd is uitverkocht maar dit is wat Simware te zeggen heeft:

Coen020:

''Ik vroeg mij af of jullie de Collector's Edition inkopen van Il-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover.

Zo ja, versturen jullie naar Nederland?''

Simware:

''Geachte Heer,

Deze programma zal inderdaad binnenkort (7 - 10 dagen) op onze website aangeboden worden.

Met vriendelijke groeten,

Cedric Mattys
info@simw.com - SimWare Simulations
Full catalog at http://www.simw.com

[ghodan]

YES,
Ik zei jullie toch Simware Belgie.
:cool:

[_RAAF_Smouch]

A good place to buy online is www.ozgameshop.com , Alot of new titles that are $100 or there abouts here are $50-60 on that site , shipping is also FREE and it comes from the UK which is pretty good.

Pretty much you save atleast %30. It's worth a look.

No sign of it on that site either :confused::rolleyes:

Just found this link:

http://www.boostep.com/product_info.php?products_id=354308&utm_source=shopping&utm_medium=prodlink&utm_campaign=shopping_au&currency=AUD

thoughts?

[Avimimus]

Just order from the Jersey Islands (like I'm planning on doing)

[Wolf_Rider]

like with the other one, no local physical address... makes it hard to go to with a brick, if ya get mucked around

[Screamadelica]

Still no sign of the boxed set being available, rang EB stores, but they had no information on it at all. I will contact their customer support on Tuesday and see if they have any idea if it will be available. Ubisoft still only listing the download version.:sad: The retailers complain about internet sales cutting into their profits, but then you can't buy it from them anyway!:confused:

[Wolf_Rider]

The retailers complain about internet sales cutting into their profits, but then you can't buy it from them anyway! :confused:




yeah, funny about that



it is the GST (VAT) free threshold on imports (by default including holiday makers' duty free) the big retailers were whinging about...

[kingpinda]

YES,
Ik zei jullie toch Simware Belgie.
:cool:

Cool! Daar heb ik mijn trackIR ook gekocht. zal dan maar daar bestellen. Stomme ubisoft....

[Daniël]

Je bedoelt een onderzeeboot? Wel een geinig idee ...

Ach ja, als de marine even niks te doen heeft halen ze maar even een paar duizend exemplaren van Il-2 Cliffs of Dover op. Of anders de luchtmacht, in zo'n Hercules transportvliegtuig past ook genoeg en het gaat sneller dan met een onderzeeër ;)

simw.com ligt geloof ik plat... Ik kan 'm niet krijgen...:(

[FS~Hawks]

Any Aussie NZ herd or found any thing yet ?

[B25Mitch]

no, but here's another Aussie keen to get a hard copy! There's a lot of us...

[Screamadelica]

Still nothing listed with EB, and the staff have no idea about the release, even suggesting it may be DLC only for Australia! Sent Ubisoft an email several days ago, but have had no reply from them. Looks like it's either a waiting game to see if we get some box sets in the stores or order from overseas, as usual. SNAFU.:mad:

[Wolf_Rider]

but but but but but but we wants very much the Limted Edition edition

[Screamadelica]

The retailers have said they may not know until 4 or 5 weeks before release date in regards to what they will be getting, I'm fairly sure we will get the Limited Edition sets as Ubisoft has always shipped them in the past for most games they release. Still,it keeps things a little edgy.:)

[_RAAF_Smouch]

I rang me local EB blokes and still not showing in thier system yet. He suggested ringing next week and checking regularly :rolleyes:

[Ctrl E]

buy it online. bugger EB. no GST online either, despite the best efforts of gerry harvey and co.

we should send a link of this thread to EB. it might stir them to action

[FS~Hawks]

I rang me local EB blokes and still not showing in thier system yet. He suggested ringing next week and checking regularly :rolleyes:

Have been every week

[FS~Hawks]

buy it online. bugger EB. no GST online either, despite the best efforts of gerry harvey and co.

we should send a link of this thread to EB. it might stir them to action

Not a bad idea

[PorcoRosso]

Hi all
Yet another Australian fan registering his unhappiness with the way that Australian games are so over priced. EB games I'm afraid are really overpriced as it is. Its sad that Australian games have got so over priced. I've been looking forward to Shogun 2 for a long time, then I find its gong to be 100+ dollars. It hurts alot but I'm saying next. Hopefully ozgameshop someone recommended is as good as it is with other games. I'm amazed that Civ V is so cheap on it.

[Tiger27]

Exchange rates are not necessarily related to retail prices.

I used to work for Harvey Norman Electrical in NSW back in the 90's.

We were importing electrical goods in Yen -- against which the Aussie dollar was rising, so we were getting them cheaper than ever.

However the Aussie dollar was falling against the US dollar -- so we were able to put all our prices on electrical goods UP by 10% (even though we were importing them cheaper) and blamed the government and the "bad Aussie dollar" for the price hike.

We made a fortune for a while.

Good old Gerry Harvey, always doing the right thing by us Aussies, I refuse to buy anything of that tosser.:evil:

[Codex]

I used to go to either EB or JB-HiFi when it came to buying my games. But recently I've jumped on the STEAM bandwagon. I just got Dead Space 2 for $20 less than what it cost at EB or JB.

But I think for the collectors edition of CoD I'll go back to JB, unless I can get it from Amazon.

[PorcoRosso]

Bingo
I found it on Amazon for 50 bucks :grin::grin::grin:
just type the name in and up it comes up no sweat. Only slight problem is that it comes out on the 22 march. from memory the release date the 3rd i think?
Hope this Helps

[B25Mitch]

That version only ships to the US, if you read the small print.

[Wolf_Rider]

EB Games old mother hubbard is still bare :cry:

[Screamadelica]

Brace yourselves Gentlemen, I spoke to the Ubisoft Head Office today and they have confirmed that there will be NO COLLECTORS OR BOXED SETS available for sale in Australia, this will be DLC only!!!!!:evil: You can contact Ubisoft directly on 02 85871800. Sorry about the bad news, get your overseas orders in quick!

[Screamadelica]

Spoke to Ubisoft Head Office today and they stated that they will not be supplying any Collectors or Boxed Sets for Australia!:evil: You can contact Ubisoft on 02 85871800. Sorry about the bad news, get your overseas orders in quick

[Wolf_Rider]

WTF?? that's &*!! $#*! :mad:

that means $100 (on top of purchase price) at least, to ship it in... < grumble, grumble, stomp, grimace, FFS whinge, throw arms in air, more grumble >

[Ctrl E]

that sucks. let's make a fuss. don't they want to sell this bloody product or what?

[B25Mitch]

Seriously, does Ubisoft ever make a good decision? This is pathetic.

[Royraiden]

Even trying to post on the ubi forum is a mess.I cant understand these guys.

[Codex]

Yeah and they reported an operating profit loss of $55.5mil for March 2010!

If they spent less money on crappy protection systems that, lets be honest, don't work, then they may actually turn over a profit, keep paying customer's happy and maybe be able to put more $$$ into better development of their in house titles and GIVE US AUSSIES THE FRIGGEN COLLECTOR EDITION!

But I know there's some department manager or CEO at UBI looking for ways to try and justify their job by concocting a smoke screen on paper that they can present to their stakeholder which says "hey we lost money but we're on track to make a profit "in the near furture" as we winning the in pirated software war."

Some people just can't admit they're wrong.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Well! Damn!

Given the choice I would have prefered to put my money through a local company, But I would rather have the boxed copy. It seems a bit short sighted by Ubi Australia.

Cheers and thanks for the heads up.

[FS~Hawks]

I would rather bye the box copy than down loading it. I hate down loading games it takes to long, the box give 1 hr installing and patching and your playing.
Down loading you waiting 6 or more hour then may have a power outage or some so you may have to re down load the 6hrs again, it a pain in the sun dont shine

[Screamadelica]

You would think that someone at Ubisoft Australia could pick up the phone and get the warehouse to send a few sets sent out for sale through their Ubishop. Apparently not! So, what are our alternatives? Can anyone suggest a reliable UK site or similiar, boostep.com looks like a possibility. Must be a way to sort something out.:)

[FS~Hawks]

If we all can send a email to Ubisoft aus rally up and get the numbers spread the word on what going on, we may just get them to send them here.
and if we can have some help from 1c that will be really fantastic.

[Screamadelica]

I wouldn't bother emailing them, I did and never got a reply about the Collectors Set. Ring them up and speak to someone who may eventually get annoyed enough to do something about it. But don't hold your breath....

[FS~Hawks]

I wouldn't bother emailing them, I did and never got a reply about the Collectors Set. Ring them up and speak to someone who may eventually get annoyed enough to do something about it. But don't hold your breath....

They may if we can get something like 600+ Aussies & New Zealanders or just set up a petition. They cant ignore the numbers

[Vevster]

They may if we can get something like 600+ Aussies & New Zealanders or just set up a petition. They cant ignore the numbers

Xactly

If 10 guys on a forum yell "we want collectors", it won't do much

If 500 call them to place an order, they might change their minds.

Collectors are expensive for the publisher. It's a higher risk taken on inventory costs (think about unsold copies) for a lower margin (in %).
So if they think they won't sell many in a particular area, they won't offer it.

[hanspahlen]

I preordered a Collectors Edition from Amazon.de, they ship world-wide:

http://www.amazon.de/-2-Sturmovik-Cliffs-Dover-Collectors/dp/B004JM5C62/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296819920&sr=1-1

[Screamadelica]

Hope you speak German then, you know it is the German language version that they are offering.

[hanspahlen]

Yes it says so, but I hope it is possible to choose language in the game. As CoD also is downloadable, it would surprise me if they have more than one version with all languages included.
Anyway, I speak German as well as English ;)

[Spi]

Hello, my question is simple, where can I find it? It's not on amazon.com or UBI.com. Should I wait or pre-order it on an european website?
Thanks

[Codex]

It would appear (at this time) the collectors edition is only available to the European region.

[Sauf]

anyone recommend best place to buy from overseas please?

[Wolf_Rider]

and here's me with a nice frame for the cloth map to go into and a spot on the wall all picked out.....

[drewpee]

I have emailed UBISOFT through their HELP page requesting info on Boxed sets and would suggest everyone outside of Europe who would prefer a Box set to do the same. The only way to get what you want is to speak out and let them know.I think downloading games is a cheap and greedy way of selling a product (for $89.95 AUD) that already has a large and loyal fan base.

[zauii]

I have emailed UBISOFT through their HELP page requesting info on Boxed sets and would suggest everyone outside of Europe who would prefer a Box set to do the same. The only way to get what you want is to speak out and let them know.I think downloading games is a cheap and greedy way of selling a product (for $89.95 AUD) that already has a large and loyal fan base.

Downloading aka digital distribution is the future even if you don't like it, i personally prefer boxed version but i've many games on Steam-only as well. More money goes to the developers directly via db than retail stores.

[ECV56_Guevara]

+1
Neither in South America we can get the boxed set. Here we even can´t preorder the downloable version. In spite of not being so active in this forum, the latin american comunity is huge and we are waiting CoD as anxious as in any other part of the world.

[drewpee]

I'm sorry for being cynical but I don't believe $89.95 for a download version in Australia is fair or that the developers are getting anything more. I think they (UBI) will charge what ever they can because they can. The same thing is happening with music and aps here in Australia, our dollar is worth the same as the USD but we are paying double the price. The only way to change things is to speak up. If I don't get a good answer from UBI I will buy from overseas or wait till the game hits the bargain box.

[swiss]

Why can't you order it in the States(or maybe Japan)?

[drewpee]

Hi, point is UBISOFT should make COD Boxed Sets available on all sites. UBI needs to know costumers are unhappy. After all the work thats been done by the Maddox team it is unacceptable for a distributor to upset customers.

[Wolf_Rider]

1 Euro = 1.35 USD and 1.34 AUD

So if it is 67 Euro, it should be about right for a download rate, based on AUS price.

[Robert]

I'm sure there will be a boxed edition in the US. Should there not be a boxed edition, there will be one less sale. Digital download may be the future, but it's not in my future. I don't have the internet speed nor inclination to download a 4GB game.

[zauii]

I'm sure there will be a boxed edition in the US. Should there not be a boxed edition, there will be one less sale. Digital download may be the future, but it's not in my future. I don't have the internet speed nor inclination to download a 4GB game.


I think the game is bigger than 4gb , it's around 8-10, still the old farts of yesterday need to grow up and upgrade.
A niche of a niche in 2011, you can't expect your local store to have it, more likely it will show up in online retail shops
in your area, buy it from them.

[Robert]

I think the game is bigger than 4gb , wasn't it around 8, still the old farts of yesterday need to grow up and upgrade.


Us old farts have a hard time remembering numbers. LOL ;) Still, even if it is 4GB's, that's huge. 8GB is definitely out of the question. My city has primordial internet service, and won't be upgrading in the foreseeable future. How many times have you (generic you) heard of peoples download being corrupted due to large files and slower connections.

I've downloaded some of the mod packs for IL2, and there hasn't been a time where I don't get corruptions.


I'm confident it'll show up in boxed editions. I'm not really worried.... but just in case, I'm stating my objections.

[House M.D.]

I think that best option would be to pay for the boxed game and while waiting to get it via post, to be able to download it from day 1.

Why would anyone, who wants the boxed version, have to wait until post comes?

[swiss]

I'm sorry for being cynical but I don't believe $89.95 for a download version in Australia is fair or that the developers are getting anything more. I think they (UBI) will charge what ever they can because they can. The same thing is happening with music and aps here in Australia, our dollar is worth the same as the USD but we are paying double the price. The only way to change things is to speak up. If I don't get a good answer from UBI I will buy from overseas or wait till the game hits the bargain box.

1st:
We live in a globalized world.
If want to watch to the end of my favorite TV series, because they are behind schedule in my country, I can order it from the US or Canada.
I can refuse to pay some crazy price for a PC part since I can order it from Honk Kong, only takes about 7 days.

Seriously where's your problem?!
Just call Ubi, they may share your POV or not - if the don't; just get it somewhere else.


Ubisoft Games: 1902 262 102, calls to this number are charged at $2.48 per minute, lines available 9am - 6pm Mon - Fri (excluding Public Holidays)



MAILING ADDRESS:


UBISOFT P/L
PO Box 1749
Strawberry Hills
NSW 2012

2nd:
DL-Version
Why would you want to buy it in (which is joke, the server could anywhere on the planet) Australia?
If I go for the DL, version I'll buy it the UK.
Unless there's a IP restriction...

[Wolf_Rider]

Ubishop (for DL version) will automatically redirect to the homepage for your area...
ie typing for UK from Australia will redirect to Australia page

$2.48/ min to whinge at them?? you gotta be kidding :) there was a landline number listed on another post smewhere

but if it turns out that UBI won't release the boxed version to AUS, it may turn out that shipping it in to be the only option (an expensive option though).

[swiss]

http://uk.gamesplanet.com/buy-download-pc-games/IL2---Cliffs-of-Dover-2307-39.html

£29, probably no redirection.

[louisv]

In Canada, I can't find the Collector's edition but the download is $49.95, and right now the American, Australian and Canadian dollars are within 2% of each other, so why $89.95 in Autralia ?

[lbuchele]

http://uk.gamesplanet.com/buy-download-pc-games/IL2---Cliffs-of-Dover-2307-39.html

£29, probably no redirection.
"You will receive a download link and activation key on day of release"
I doubt that's really a collector's edition.

[Wolf_Rider]

30 GBP = 48 AUD and 36 Euro

something sux

[Screamadelica]

According to the poll 90% of us want a hard copy, so maybe Ubisoft should pay a little attention to the preferences of their paying customers, you know, the people whose money keeps them in a job! Or do they figure that we will order it from overseas, which saves them shipping costs and makes the Post Office more profits. I just hope they release enough Collectors sets to accomodate all the overseas orders.:)

[Codex]

Trying to order CoD from Australia via an overseas UBI site always re-directs you back to the UBI Australia. I even went as far as to use Tor to trick the site and was able to place an order but when selecting the shipping country as Australia, it simply cancels the order.

I don't mind paying what the Australian price is, but I'm not stupid. I recently got Dead Space 2 for $20 less on STEAM than what the local retailers were offering.

What I'm pissed at is that no-one outside of Europe will get the collectors edition, which to me makes no sense.

[swiss]

"You will receive a download link and activation key on day of release"
I doubt that's really a collector's edition.

Right, but you get the game on the day of it's release, and save some money - which will sweeten the time you'll have to wait for your US(or UK) version to arrive.

[drewpee]

In Canada, I can't find the Collector's edition but the download is $49.95, and right now the American, Australian and Canadian dollars are within 2% of each other, so why $89.95 in Autralia ?

Anwer=Greed.
I think because we Aussies were used to paying more for imports. We had to pay for the low Aussie dollar (Aussie dollar was around $0.57 to the USD) shipping and import taxes. With a download only tax should apply. The only way to change things is to let companies know we're not stupid and to treat us so is an insult. I thinks its one reason pirating is such a problem, most will pay what they think something is worth. Rip them off and pirating starts to look like a good way to get even.
PS. I don't condone pirating or ripping people off just because they can.

[drewpee]

IMA the way a person decides to read a story, watch a movie pay a bill, bank or play a comp game should be up to them. If hard copy's are made available in local stores there would be no waiting or people trying to tricking the system to get what should be available. Trying to rip people off or dictate what they can purchase leads to things like a black-market (proved again and again by history)

[mpetrov]

OK, if we cant buy the boxed set down here, what online stores do people recommend?

[mpetrov]

this whole issue is bloody frustrating, it may be on amazon.de but not on amazon uk??
if it ever does appear on amazon uk im going to buy it, get it sent to my mother, and she can post it to me..what a palaver

[drewpee]

Guys we must let UBI know our concerns via email or we will end up with the ruff end of the pineapple. All this talk of discontent will change nothing, only action will. With email there will be a documented account of our concerns. Come on guys YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU.
VIVA THE REVOLUTION.

[Wolf_Rider]

perhaps the Australian office PR and Promotions Manager could help?

anna.chance@ubisoft.com.au


http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=69

[drewpee]

perhaps the Australian office PR and Promotions Manager could help?

anna.chance@ubisoft.com.au


http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=69

Good job. Ive sent a polite inquiry. The more that do the more chance of getting things done.

[Vevster]

According to the poll 90% of us want a hard copy, so maybe Ubisoft should pay a little attention to the preferences of their paying customers, you know, the people whose money keeps them in a job!

155 people altogether answerer this poll as of today.

Hardly a number worth looking at except for some indication of preferences. Among these 155, some have already ordered their own copy.


Do not forget also that the release of hard copy in stores does not depend only on Ubisoft. If the sores do not place any order for hard copies (and it's already the case in some countries for most PC games except the huge hits), then Ubisoft won't bother making them.
In that particular case, who knows...

[[URU]AkeR]

+1
Neither in South America we can get the boxed set. Here we even can´t preorder the downloable version. In spite of not being so active in this forum, the latin american comunity is huge and we are waiting CoD as anxious as in any other part of the world.

Hi Guevara, from Uruguay I can go to the preorder page for the downloable version, I havent pre order because i haven´t a paypal account yet but i could go almost to the end of the process. Please confirm if you could do the same and got stuck later in the process or you just cant get to the preorder page, cause im confident i will be able to buy it and maybe im wrong and then i will have to fly to kick some ubis rear ends.

I have no hope in getting the collectors edition in Uruguay.

[mpetrov]

Guys we must let UBI know our concerns via email or we will end up with the ruff end of the pineapple. All this talk of discontent will change nothing, only action will. With email there will be a documented account of our concerns. Come on guys YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU.
VIVA THE REVOLUTION.

Viva the revolution?
I think Ubisoft are saying ¡No pasarán!

[Wolf_Rider]

possibly, perhaps, Ubi has each download watermarked?

[Screamadelica]

Just fired off a polite enquiry to their PR Department, well done on finding that address Wolf Rider! Now we wait and see....

[4H_V-man]

I think the game is bigger than 4gb , it's around 8-10, still the old farts of yesterday need to grow up and upgrade.
A niche of a niche in 2011, you can't expect your local store to have it, more likely it will show up in online retail shops
in your area, buy it from them.

What if upgrading your internet isn't an option? Not all of us live in areas where you have a list of internet providers. Where I live you have only ONE ISP to choose from. My download speed is about 2 megabits per second, .53 upload. It took me over 12 hours to download the original version of Rise of Flight when I beta-tested it. I will NOT buy a sim unless I can get a hard copy of it.

Us old farts around my area would call you a condescending piss-ant...

[Screamadelica]

No luck on that one. The email bounced back as an invalid address. Will try the old fashioned phone call again.:)

[Wolf_Rider]

unbelievable iddinit?


the email bounces but going to the addy in the link for the country index of media reps, and clicking on it brings up a different addy

chad.acers@ubisoft.com.au

I sent one off, lets see what happens


*late edit

country index => http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=69 (from my earlier post)

nothing has bounced back (yet)

[drewpee]

No luck with UBI as yet but did get a quick reply from one top bloke from
Cheap Games Australia heres what he said.

Hi Andrew,
It is definitely disappointing. I will try to get some in but can't
promise anything at this stage.
Thanks for the information.
Joe
Cheap Games Australia

http://www.cheapgames.com.au

[Screamadelica]

Spoke to Ubisoft again today. They stated that there will definitely be NO Collectors or Standard box sets offered for retail in Australia. DLC only! They were very nice though and offered to pass on my comments as feedback to whatever department handles this.:rolleyes: They did sound surprised when I mentioned that their company had been receiving some fairly negative comments regarding this new style of product distribution.:) There is no other option than an overseas order. I always did like Finland!

[drewpee]

Ok, I got another message from Joe at Cheap Games Australia.
It read-
I have been in contact with a few overseas suppliers and hopefully they
will get back to me soon with pricing/availability.
Thanks,
Joe
Cheap Games Australia

[WTE_Galway]

Anwer=Greed.
I think because we Aussies were used to paying more for imports. We had to pay for the low Aussie dollar (Aussie dollar was around $0.57 to the USD) shipping and import taxes. With a download only tax should apply. The only way to change things is to let companies know we're not stupid and to treat us so is an insult. I thinks its one reason pirating is such a problem, most will pay what they think something is worth. Rip them off and pirating starts to look like a good way to get even.
PS. I don't condone pirating or ripping people off just because they can.

Its not just the high price that encourages pirating.

Titles which are "download only" seem to often generate a "... well if I can't get a DVD and have to download it anyway, then I may as well just wait for the cracked version " attitude.

[Ctrl E]

i will call ubi australia tomorrow and vent.

perhaps if a whole bunch call they might take the hint

[Skoshi Tiger]

If it's download only is their any reason why us Aussies can't buy the download version from the US or are there restrictions?

Cheers!

[Wolf_Rider]

"Interesting about the lens mentioned, A game publisher is attempting to charge double, yes double, for a download version of a soon to be released game. As far as I am aware the US and AUS dollars are at parity, or so close to it as not to matter... there's no packaging or shipping costs to be borne by the publisher, crikey, there isn't even any DVD manufacturing costs to consider and they want to charge us double!!"



comment #73 http://www.news.com.au/business/retail-sales-disappoint-in-december/story-e6frfm1i-1226001392842#ixzz1DFfqE24Q


I wonder who might have posted this comment?? :wink:


and still no reply from the email sent off earlier... 'tis sad indeed

[Wolf_Rider]

electronic tagging by way of email and card account, plus more than likely each download will have some form of watermark/ prevention of secondhand sales by onselling the DVD, is about the only reasons I can see. Accuracy? who knows?

[BuddhaOnP]

That is a pretty raw deal for us any way you slice it.

If we are forced into downloading our copies (please noooooo!) what would stop us from downloading from US and charging the credit card in US dollars? The Australian distribution channels would just force our money overseas to the parent company. Not a good move by the Oz marketing types I must say. I'll be watching this thread closely and am not going to put down a cent until I'm sure there is no other way but to get a downloaded version. Like someone mentioned before, if this is to be anything like Il-2 there may in the future be up to 5 installs on my computer. Sorting this mess out from a download version will not help.

[Wolf_Rider]

The Ubishop redirects to the local region page... trying to get through the US or UK keeps being redirected back to Australia.
Amazon won't ship to Oz.

Best to hope for is; Ubi sees the error of their marketing or in finding an english version hardcopy (and hoping that it hasn't been region locked) outlet that will ship to Oz... or suck it up, forget the C.E. and pay double (compared to the US/ UK) for the download.

[Skoshi Tiger]

How about drumming up a bit of public awareness in the media and see if it raises any dirt?

Here's a link to my effort on the 'Atomic' magazines gaming forum.

http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=39802 (WARNING-contains bad language)

Feel free to post your own opinions in the thread!

Cheers

[ghodan]

Hij staat nog steeds niet op de webshop van www.simw.com
:(

[GOA_Potenz]

Any idea why there's no option to purchase digitaly for South America, many people in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Brazil are waiting for this release, but now we can't buy the product.

[Royraiden]

I live in the caribbean and I got the option for download.Though Puerto Rico is U.S. territory.If you go to the UBI site and search Cliffs of Dover nothing appears?

[KG26_Alpha]

Please redirect and discuss at the UBI forums, you will get your point across to the distributor more effectively.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8071032709

[Hans]

anyone recommend best place to buy from overseas please?

I've pre-ordered my Collctors Edition from Halfmoon Games
http://www.puolenkuunpelit.com

Price: 64.90 € + shipping

Their website is in English and Finnish. They ship worldwide :grin:

[addman]

I've pre-ordered my Collctors Edition from Halfmoon Games
http://www.puolenkuunpelit.com

Price: 64.90 € + shipping

Their website is in English and Finnish. They ship worldwide :grin:

I was thinking about pre-ordering it from either puolenkuunpelit or vpd.fi but then I checked out which day the 24th is, it's a thursday which means the game most likely will arrive at monday the earliest. I'm just gonna stroll down to Pelimies/Anttila/Gigantti and pick it up so I can play it during the weekend :grin:

[WTE_Galway]

Yeah and they reported an operating profit loss of $55.5mil for March 2010!

If they spent less money on crappy protection systems that, lets be honest, don't work, then they may actually turn over a profit, keep paying customer's happy and maybe be able to put more $$$ into better development of their in house titles and GIVE US AUSSIES THE FRIGGEN COLLECTOR EDITION!

But I know there's some department manager or CEO at UBI looking for ways to try and justify their job by concocting a smoke screen on paper that they can present to their stakeholder which says "hey we lost money but we're on track to make a profit "in the near furture" as we winning the in pirated software war."

Some people just can't admit they're wrong.

It is interesting to know that UBI's stupid DRM stance and console style marketing strategy has resulted in them loosing money - just as many people predicted.

[Wolf_Rider]

Is there anyway of finding out if CoD is region locked?

[WTE_Galway]

Is there anyway of finding out if CoD is region locked?


My sources tell me you will be restricted to playing the campaign for the side your country allied with during the battle.

[Fossil-Goz]

My sources tell me you will be restricted to playing the campaign for the side your country allied with during the battle.

Lucky Italians get to play both sides :)

[Wolf_Rider]

sorry WTE Galway, I meant region locked, as in the same as DVD movies, some console games for instance

[Ctrl E]

So what's the consensus as to where to buy a collectors ed if i live in Australia? Best websites likely to import it?

[swiss]

So what's the consensus as to where to buy a collectors ed if i live in Australia? Best websites likely to import it?


voilà: they ship worldwide.
http://www.bol.ch/shop/home/rubrikartikel/ID27318966.html?zanpid=1469931116919241728

You may have to use google translator, I could find an English button.

AU$128 incl shipping plus evtl. OZ taxes.

I don't know if those are multi-lingu DVDs tho...but pressing two different limited editions is just as unlikely.

[Wolf_Rider]

EAN3307219934544
Veröffentlicht25.02.2011
Plattform PC
Games Medium: DVD
FSK16
Sprache Deutsch (language German)
Genre Simulation.




thanks anyway though

[FS~Phat]

Well im pretty disgusted at the games distributors in Australia generally and they wont be getting another cent from me in this country for any software until they get sensible about local pricing and availability.

Its just too easy to order it direct internationally online or get a friend or family to buy it and ship to you and still save money compared to local distribution.

Our retailers recently had the hide to also try and get local taxes added to international online purchases... If you cant compete in a global economy in retail with the advent of online sales its time for some of these people to think about a new vocation in life!

[ghodan]

For the dutch guys:
I have send a email to simware and now they say they are not sure if they can sell it.
Then reading about bol.ch already having it for pre-order i have send a email to the customer service of bol.com and got this reply:


Hartelijk dank voor uw e-mail van 8 februari 2011.

U kunt sommige artikelen die nog niet direct leverbaar zijn bij bol.com reserveren. Bij de levertijd van het artikel staat in dat geval: ‘Nog niet verschenen - U kunt deze titel reserveren’ en de datum waarop het artikel verschijnt. Een artikel reserveren is eigenlijk hetzelfde als een artikel bestellen. U doorloopt alle stappen van het bestelproces en het artikel wordt naar u verstuurd zodra het leverbaar is.

Als een artikel niet op onze site staat, kunt u het niet reserveren. Raadpleeg onze site regelmatig voor de laatste verschijningsdata.

Wij hopen u hiermee voldoende te hebben geïnformeerd.

Met vriendelijke groet,
bol.com Klantenservice

www.bol.com

Mocht uw vraag hiermee nog niet voldoende beantwoord zijn dan willen we u vriendelijk vragen om dit aan te geven in antwoord op dit bericht.

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---- Original Message ----
From : x
To : epiphany@bol.com
Subject : Op zoek naar een pre-order mogelijkheid [CASE:5639186]
Date : Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:30:15 GMT


Geachte heer/mevrouw,

Gaan jullie de volgende pc game verkopen:
IL-2 Sturmovic: Cliffs of Dover
Op de bol.ch site staat die game al vermeld: http://www.bol.ch/shop/home/rubrikartikel/ID27318966.html?zanpid=1469931116919241728
Veel nederlandse gamers zoeken naar winkel/onlineshop die het gaat verkopen.
De retail versie en de collectors edition schijnt niet in de normale winkels te komen in nederland.
Release date: maart 2011

[FS~Phat]

Ive setup a poll at UBI to let them know what our buying intentions are, to try and get them to do a decent job of supporting this wonderful game with decent distribution.

Please use it truthfully!

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8071032709/m/2771062909

[nearmiss]

This is an ENGLISH forums only. If you cannot read or write English use a Google translator or something to make your posting.

[swiss]

Our retailers recently had the hide to also try and get local taxes added to international online purchases... If you cant compete in a global economy in retail with the advent of online sales its time for some of these people to think about a new vocation in life!

Have you ever run a business which has to compete with a huge online market?
Having a warehouse in the middle of nowhere and running a homepage has quite a different cost structure compared to a local shop with employees in the business district of your town.
You can never - ever compete with online prices.
Your local software shop's prices have to be higher than than the ones of the eshops, and you have find a way to justify them; service f.i..
How many computer shops with a real world shop where in your area 10years ago, how many today?

Sure trying to tax esales is cheap(and wrong), still you have to understand their position - in the end the consumer loses too, as there won't be any local shops left.


***

Sprache Deutsch (language German)

That's why I wondered if they really press two versions.
Most games sold over here are multi language(they just dont mention the language option on the cover).





Then reading about bol.ch already having it for pre-order i have send a email to the customer service of bol.com and got this reply:

Wow - the swiss replied in Dutch?

[drewpee]

Apology's to all for my ranting. I have upped my medication and should be rite. Ok where were we. Thats rite, I'll have a hard copy thanks.:grin:

[ghodan]

Wow - the swiss replied in Dutch?

uuuh no. www.bol.com is their Dutch site.

[swiss]

uuuh no. www.bol.com is their Dutch site.

Ok - I see.
An international eshop with a swiss spin-off domain, you dont see that very often.
Thx.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Have you ever run a business which has to compete with a huge online market?
Having a warehouse in the middle of nowhere and running a homepage has quite a different cost structure compared to a local shop with employees in the business district of your town.
You can never - ever compete with online prices.
Your local software shop's prices have to be higher than than the ones of the eshops, and you have find a way to justify them; service f.i..
How many computer shops with a real world shop where in your area 10years ago, how many today?

Sure trying to tax esales is cheap(and wrong), still you have to understand their position - in the end the consumer loses too, as there won't be any local shops left.


Swiss, Its an Australian joke. They were refering to the Harvey Normans franchise which over here is quite big and they are very aggressive with their sales and have driven alot of little retail shops out of busness capturing a large market share, they are perceived as being very profit driven and service is one of those points that they could improve on. Mr Norman is now the one crying out that he can't compete even though they use a lot of off shore warehousing etc to reduce costs and minimise tax and payroll expenses.

Cheers!

[gonk]

here is another site to check out... http://www.puolenkuunpelit.com/kauppa/product_info.php?products_id=49941&language=en&currency=EUR


I have not tried it yet...so don't blame me... :)

Still looking for one that is A... in english.. and B... take Paypal... C.... Ships to Australia

[Screamadelica]

Just had a reply from Finland. Their customer service has said that the Collectors Boxed set they are advertising is an English version. I asked them specifically about the manual and map, so hopefully this is the right version for us. They say the game is for the Australian region on their add. They also have an Australian page for the website , so no translation problems there. The Collectors set, including postage is only a few dollars more than the Australian download price! And Gonk, they take Paypal. The address of this wonderful website is boostep.com. Are they any good? Have no idea, but worth a look.:)

[Screamadelica]

P.S Make sure you leave just one copy for me to order too, thanks!:grin:

[gonk]

RGR... thx

[pupo162]

Any poruguese managed to get a track on the game??

i found 0, the nearest go i found was "aeroteca" in Madrid.


cheers

[FS~Phat]

Just ordered COD CE from boostep.com for delivery to Australia using Paypal!

[ghodan]

So Dutch en Belgium people can place their orders here:
http://www.boostep.eu/product_info.php?products_id=354308
And pay with paypal!

[drewpee]

Great find Scream. I did a search and found other people have been using boostep.com for a couple of years. I've put in my order so that's one less Collectors addition available. Thanks for all the help guys.:grin:

[drewpee]

Oh and it only cost $5 more than the sucky Australian down load to get it delivered to my door.

[Tvrdi]

I preordered mine (download version) at getgames for 50 bucks...

http://www.getgamesgo.com/catalogue/game/il-2-strumovik-cliffs-of-dover

[swiss]

I preordered mine (download version) at getgames for 50 bucks...

http://www.getgamesgo.com/catalogue/game/il-2-strumovik-cliffs-of-dover

That's DL only.
They are available from £29.9x

[Wolf_Rider]

I had a look at the Boostep... good if it is true

the item was added on Jan 19, there is no image and the price, including postage) for the CE seems to come in at less than the Australian download version (which is a good thing)

it rings a bell though (its a almost too good to be true bell)

information on the site also suggests the CoD has been region locked, along the same three region system bluray uses

[drewpee]

Just had a reply from Finland. Their customer service has said that the Collectors Boxed set they are advertising is an English version. I asked them specifically about the manual and map, so hopefully this is the right version for us. They say the game is for the Australian region on their add. They also have an Australian page for the website , so no translation problems there. The Collectors set, including postage is only a few dollars more than the Australian download price! And Gonk, they take Paypal. The address of this wonderful website is boostep.com. Are they any good? Have no idea, but worth a look.:)

Sounds good to me. I've payed using Paypal (never had a problem with Paypal ,Even got money back from bad ebay deal). Still if you wait maybe with all the noise UBI.AU will make things right.

[ECV56_Guevara]

Pushing for south america!!!
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8071032709/m/3951064909/p/1

[Tvrdi]

That's DL only.
They are available from £29.9x

yea I said that its a download version didnt I? BTW, £30 is app 50 bucks....and I need game only...

[Screamadelica]

Another Collectors Boxed Set coming to Australia from Finland! And only 2 dollars more than Ubisoft Australia's download!! Pre-order in and paid.:grin: Thanks to RAAF Smouch for finding this site and posting it.
Final thoughts on the whole Ubisoft debacle. Walking into several bookshops in a small country town today, I noticed more books than ever on the Battle of Britain, Spitfires, Hurricanes,etc. With the 70 year anniversary last year and a large range of new books on display, how would anybody even know that this game is available. I walked past the local games shop. Nothing, of course. Unless you know about the IL 2 websites you would never find out about it! I feel that Ubisoft are doing Oleg and 1c a great disservice in the way they have handled this.
There, I feel better already.:)Thanks to all, cheers.

[Ernst]

I would like to ask why UBI does not ll allow download purchasing of CoD for South America? I checked the site and they not sell via download for South America. Shame.

[WTE_Galway]

Another Collectors Boxed Set coming to Australia from Finland! And only 2 dollars more than Ubisoft Australia's download!! Pre-order in and paid.:grin: Thanks to RAAF Smouch for finding this site and posting it.
Final thoughts on the whole Ubisoft debacle. Walking into several bookshops in a small country town today, I noticed more books than ever on the Battle of Britain, Spitfires, Hurricanes,etc. With the 70 year anniversary last year and a large range of new books on display, how would anybody even know that this game is available. I walked past the local games shop. Nothing, of course. Unless you know about the IL 2 websites you would never find out about it! I feel that Ubisoft are doing Oleg and 1c a great disservice in the way they have handled this.
There, I feel better already.:)Thanks to all, cheers.

... well i contacted PC Aviator who are one of the major online aussie flight sim outlets and there response was:


"Who will be making this title?"



Good one UBI.

[Feathered_IV]

Pitiful. It really makes you wonder what kind of clowns are running the show.

Maddox would have been better doing online distribution themselves. At least then they would get the profits, not hand over the biggest cut to Ubi.

[Codex]

Things that make you go Hmmmmmm ....

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/247641,australian-game-sales---a-pc-win.aspx (http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/247641,australian-game-sales---a-pc-win.aspx?eid=6&edate=20110216&utm_source=20110216&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=weekly_newsletter&eaddr=marc.steinlein@hotmail.com)

[Testus01]

I preordered a Collectors Edition from Amazon.de, they ship world-wide:

http://www.amazon.de/-2-Sturmovik-Cliffs-Dover-Collectors/dp/B004JM5C62/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296819920&sr=1-1

__________________________________________________ __________________________


I also pre-ordered a collector's copy at Amazon Germany three weeks ago, I see now it's
available at Amazon France:
http://www.amazon.fr/IL2-Sturmovik-Cliffs-%C3%A9dition-collector/dp/B004JRLL94/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_1
Nothing at UK site, which is usually cheaper.

[Codex]

Following Screamadelica and drewpee lead, just pre-ordered the Collectors Edition from boostep.com for $93.95AUD delivered.

UBI Australia = download only for $89.95. :rolleyes:

[White Owl]

I looked at that boostep.com, and saw this: "Usable in regions Suomi,Europe, Middle East, Australia / Region B"

I'm in the USA.

So I guess Americans who want the Collector's Edition are just screwed, and that's that.

:(

[Codex]

Maybe if UBI sees enough of us pre-ordering from foreign re-sellers they may change their minds and finally see what their customers actually want rather than being told what we can have.

I just told a work college what I did and she gasp - "Isn't that illegal!?" WTF!

It's a global market place now, I find it strange that businesses are so ignorant to the fact that their business models NEED TO CHANGE, it's 2011 for god sake if you don't adapt you'll die.

[T-JETTer]

The Russian version is called "Battle for Britain"
(this is no leak :) ) (official info)

[drewpee]

You would think that with so many old farts like me who like to have some thing in their hands for their hard earned cash UBI would have a couple of boxes full of copies sent here to OZ. Once the printers and DVD suppliers have impute all the data into their copiers a DVD box set would be such a small amount they'd be using spars as drink coasters.

[Vevster]

Pitiful. It really makes you wonder what kind of clowns are running the show.

Maddox would have been better doing online distribution themselves. At least then they would get the profits, not hand over the biggest cut to Ubi.

sure. But they would have had to finance the project in full, without Ubi/ Maybe they could not or didn't want to at the time.


The Russian version is called "Battle for Britain"
(this is no leak :) ) (official info)



Wrong markings!!!!!

[ghodan]

Bootstep has no pic and no release date.
That makes me worried because it gives me a feeling that they dont pay much attention at the sales department.

[Sauf]

Hi Ghodan, Boostep does have a release date, its up in the top right hand corner of their site in the buy/preorder box. Says 24/03/2011 but that it is only an estimation.

Cheers

[Ctrl E]

ordering from finland to australia has me a bit worried. i'm sure it's legit, but i'd rather buy from an english speaking country so if any problems arise it will be easier to clear up.

anybody got a solid lead on a reputable english-speaking seller who can ship a hard copy to australia for a reasonable price?

P.S. - what a joke that we have to do so much work just to figure out where to buy the bloody product!

[swiss]

ordering from finland to australia has me a bit worried. i'm sure it's legit, but i'd rather buy from an english speaking country so if any problems arise it will be easier to clear up.

anybody got a solid lead on a reputable english-speaking seller who can ship a hard copy to australia for a reasonable price?

P.S. - what a joke that we have to do so much work just to figure out where to buy the bloody product!

I guess the Fins do speak English.
Still unsure? Drop them a line and see if they reply.

[Ctrl E]

no offence to the fins! from experience they usually do speak better english than the average ozzie!

i'm just looking for a better known seller.

[ptisinge]

Same here, torn between options to get CoD in Australia. I saw the boostep pre-order and I'm still not sure about it, it sounds a little bit fishy

[recoilfx]

So is there some sort of official word that the Collector's Edition will be available to US?

[Codex]

RE: using boostep.com

I'm not worried, weather using VISA or PayPal you can always get your money back. If using a Credit Card always ring the bank who issued the card and lodge a dispute, you'll get your money ... its the law ;)

[Screamadelica]

If it's any reassurance, when I emailed boostep.com I had a reply back on both occasions within 24 hours. The sales department speak very good English and took the time to answer the questions I had asked. Which is more than Ubisoft ever did! I am still waiting, haha, for a reply to my email of several weeks ago asking about the availability of box sets for Australia! Had to call them to get that answer.:-x
And now the stores are getting annoyed because they are still selling copies of IL 2 1946 off the shelves, and they would very much like to have Cliffs Of Dover in stock. I even saw a young kid in a hobby shop buying a model kit of, guess what....., a Spitfire.
Ubisoft have their heads in the sand, which just makes it easier to kick them in the @#*!:-) This is such good therapy.

[Vevster]

More money goes to the developers directly via db than retail stores.

Steam is a store, and actually takes a higher % of price than retail stores.

So, no more money does not automatically go to the developpers in that case.

When steam acts as both publisher/retailers, they sometimes take 85% of price leaving peanuts to the dev.

[imaca]

Just had a reply from Finland. Their customer service has said that the Collectors Boxed set they are advertising is an English version. I asked them specifically about the manual and map, so hopefully this is the right version for us. They say the game is for the Australian region on their add. They also have an Australian page for the website , so no translation problems there. The Collectors set, including postage is only a few dollars more than the Australian download price! And Gonk, they take Paypal. The address of this wonderful website is boostep.com. Are they any good? Have no idea, but worth a look.:)
Thanks for the info, think I will buy mine there also. Download is NZ$100 in NZ, so only works out about $20 more for collectors edition.

[JAMF]

Steam is a store, and actually takes a higher % of price than retail stores.

So, no more money does not automatically go to the developpers in that case.

When steam acts as both publisher/retailers, they sometimes take 85% of price leaving peanuts to the dev.And what case is this? Do you have documented cases? So far I have more confidence in Steam being more beneficial for 1C:Maddox than a game sold off the shelf.

[ElAurens]

JAMF,

Vev knows of what he says.

Really he does.

[addman]

I can guarantee you that everything will be in English in CoD if you order it from Finland. Very few games gets localized for Finland, the NHL (icehockey game) series -at least the last time I played it- gets localized but that's because Finland and Sweden have a very high interest in hockey and many of the same people play video games. I'd be more concerned if I ordered from France, Germany or Italy for example. Those overpopulated countries always get their games localized.:mad:

On the other hand, I wouldn't want a Spitfire manual in any other language than English. :)

[JAMF]

JAMF,

Vev knows of what he says.

Really he does.

I don't know him or if he has sold his developments through steam, so I'll await evidence before taking any one's word as being gospel.

[ptisinge]

Ok, you guys have convinced me, I'll pre order the collector's edition from boostep. We can always have some mass action against all together against them if they screw it up :cool:

[mpetrov]

For any Aussies, ive started a thread at The Sydney Morning Herald gamers forum, please feel free to contribute. Im hoping if enough interest is generated one of the herald`s gaming correspondents make pick up the ball and get better clarification for Australia.

http://digihub.smh.com.au/node/2004

[recoilfx]

Does anyone know if the Collector Editions from boostep is region locked? I am thinking of ordering it there as US doesn't seem to have the collector's edition.

[Screamadelica]

According to their order details, the copies that boostep are supplying are region locked for Zone B, which is for Europe and Australia. Check the information on the boostep website, it will tell you exactly which areas it is usuable in. Doesn't appear that they will be suitable for the U.S. Sorry.:(

[kingpinda]

According to their order details, the copies that boostep are supplying are region locked for Zone B, which is for Europe and Australia. Check the information on the boostep website, it will tell you exactly which areas it is usuable in. Doesn't appear that they will be suitable for the U.S. Sorry.:(

Region locked are you serious? I remember a time when dvd movies were regio locked.. but a hack with the remote control punching in some cheat code so to speak had them unlocked. They region lock software also? I mean.. ooh wait that ip adres is from holland so I won't spin up the dvd??? :confused:

edit: oh wait... Now i remember... every dvd has a small gps tracker imbedded :p

[Madfish]

Region lock for DVD usually meant that the drive itself locks to the region of the DVD after 2 or so changes. The actual geoposition doesn't matter, only the region code of the DVD's you play.

[WTE_Galway]

Region lock for DVD usually meant that the drive itself locks to the region of the DVD after 2 or so changes. The actual geoposition doesn't matter, only the region code of the DVD's you play.

The questions about region locking have arisen because some European resellers are advertising the Collectors Edition as "Region B".

Region B is a Bluray region code not a DVD region code. It is not clear how a Bluray region code can be enforced on a PC game.

Its possible this "Region B" comment may have been a mistake however it has made some people a little nervous about ordering box versions from other regions.

[White Owl]

Right, it doesn't make much sense any way you look at it. If I were a betting man, I'd bet it's a mistake and the hard copies will work in any region.

But I'm not a betting man, so I'm waiting until it's definitively cleared up before throwing around the cash for a Collector's Edition and international shipping.

[kingpinda]

hehe yeah. I have time also.. wanted the collectors edition but thinking of grabbing the download. I always lose my booklets etc anyhow.

But i've NEVER heard of games/software cd's,dvd's not working on a generic dvd player in your pc. No matter where the discs are coming from. Bluray is a different matter on which i have little to no knowledge. Besides the point though since no pc game has ever been released on bluray to my knowledge. Something to do with -$ per MB ratio- not too mention still not to many people have bluray in their pc.

[Wolf_Rider]

Australia - EB Games may have the boxed standard version available for pre-order from tomorrow (at least that is the respone I got) C.E. version is still a question


:)

[Screamadelica]

Excellent news! Hope it is true. Maybe all our complaints did acheive something after all. It would be great to get the boxed set on release date whilst waiting for the postman from Finland with the Collectors Edition. Lovely!:grin:

[Sauf]

Excellent news! Hope it is true. Maybe all our complaints did acheive something after all. It would be great to get the boxed set on release date whilst waiting for the postman from Finland with the Collectors Edition. Lovely!:grin:


+1

[recoilfx]

hehe yeah. I have time also.. wanted the collectors edition but thinking of grabbing the download. I always lose my booklets etc anyhow.

But i've NEVER heard of games/software cd's,dvd's not working on a generic dvd player in your pc. No matter where the discs are coming from. Bluray is a different matter on which i have little to no knowledge. Besides the point though since no pc game has ever been released on bluray to my knowledge. Something to do with -$ per MB ratio- not too mention still not to many people have bluray in their pc.

It's not whether the pc will read the dvd, UbiSoft may decide not to activate a region 2 binary when it's being activated on region 1 - that's the issue.

I believe Valve has done something like that - people were buying Half Life 2 from China for cheap - Valve didn't like that, so they disabled activations for games from a different region.

[Ctrl E]

Australia - EB Games may have the boxed standard version available for pre-order from tomorrow (at least that is the respone I got) C.E. version is still a question


:)

Well done eb

[Codex]

Australia - EB Games may have the boxed standard version available for pre-order from tomorrow (at least that is the respone I got) C.E. version is still a question


:)


Oh man I hope it's true, but I ALWAYS take anything EB says with a grain of salt.

[Screamadelica]

Nothing on EB Games list today. SNAFU.:rolleyes:

[Wolf_Rider]

bugga... did you enquire throught the shopfront, or through their website?

I won't be able to get to a shopfront until Monday

[Richie]

Nothing on EB Games list today. SNAFU.:rolleyes:


Forget the EB. They're all retards. Their famous last words before a dedicated IL-2 flier shoots them will be.."IL-2 Storm of what??"