Hurricane MK II Vs. He-162A-2???

[Cryptic Phant0m]

I have been playing someone the last few days that is using a Hurricane Mk 2, I was flying a He-162A-2 against her Hurricane MK II and she would always get behind me do to my turning speed which was normal.
But, when I would accelerate away from her, she would catch up to me even though I was using WEP.

Is this even possible?

I am getting quite frustrated with her, because no matter what plane I was using she could always catch up to me and turn faster then me.

[P-51]

If it's in arcade then sure.. But sim or realistic would be weird..

[olife]

I have been playing someone the last few days that is using a Hurricane Mk 2, I was flying a He-162A-2 against her Hurricane MK II and she would always get behind me do to my turning speed which was normal.
But, when I would accelerate away from her, she would catch up to me even though I was using WEP.

Is this even possible?

I am getting quite frustrated with her, because no matter what plane I was using she could always catch up to me and turn faster then me.

hello

just a question:have u a good internet connection?
i think but not sure it must be a little advantage (but not the first,the first is the pilot i think)if the other guy have a better connection than your,one day,i do race with an other guy,we use a spit 9 both,start in the same time,full speed in the same time,stay in full speed both ,have same settings and he fly faster than me easy!!!i have one mega of internet power,the other guy have more powerfull internet connection(he said me)maybe it is the reason,but i can t be sure...

[Cryptic Phant0m]

Even in arcade some planes are faster then others.

I have PenTeleData Cable my upload speed is 1.77 mb/s and download speed is 6.43 mb/s

And we where flying lvl at WEP speeds and she caught up to me with no issues... in fact she seem to be faster then me, keep in mind that she was flying the Hurricane and I the HE-162a-2.

[mavrickandgoose]

why not junk the 162 fly a spit 2 turn inside the hurricane and shoot it down?works everytime

[Cryptic Phant0m]

I was only flying it so that I could outrun her (to no avail!) I must admit that i did not try the spit.

[mavrickandgoose]

spit 2 can out turn the hurricane if you know what you are doing

[mavrickandgoose]

were you fighting tigyo by any chance she always flyes hurricane

[Cryptic Phant0m]

Flying is not an issue for me, :-) and no her name was "BigShotOlivia28"

[olife]

agree with u guys spit2 can outurn the hurri...but an hurri faster than he162...mmmmmmmm....connection probs i think

[bobbysocks]

BigShotOlivia28 has been around for awhile. she is also on xbox. i played her once a long time ago and she flew well then. she always played arcade tho and i gravitate to real and sim so i dont see her that much.

[Reggie Mental]

The He162 is modelled on early turbojet technology. Because we may have flown a modern sim with loads of power like and F16 or F18 we assume jets have always had very fast acceleration and climb. In 1944/5 this was not the case.

BMw003 or JUMO 004 or Hirth SO11 engines did not have reheat and their power out put was dependent on slow spooling up times and how much air was getting inside them.

All fighters lose speed in turns, but piston engines accelerate better afterwards. Early jets did not and needed long straight runs, even shallow dives to spool up the turbine and give more power output. More air in=More power out, bit like a supercharger for high altitude piston engines. Jets of that period were best fought like their piston engined contemporaries, ie energy tactics!

Also when flying the He162, you should exploit its straight line speed. It will accellerate to 700km/h + if flown well. It is more accurate gun platform at higher speeds. At lower speeds it 'snakes' when the cannons are fired. This was due to the designs inherent longitudinal instability, a problem that would likely have been cured by a v tail and higher dihedral in the C model. The D model swept forward wings were not possible with current construction methods, but were a theoretical improvement. The propsed armanent of 2 30mm cannons would have been devastating against bombers and ground targets. Also the small size and the fitting of the cannons close to the centreline means little problems with divergence too.

As a dogfighter it is also very capable. Just don't let your speed drop below 550km/h and don't get lower than your opponent (unless you have built up a good rate of speed first.) If it goes wrong and you find yourself pootling about 220kmh, dive away and attack later.

If I went online against Hurricane MkIIc, I'm pretty sure I'd shred it in short order. The Volksjager is one of my best mounts. Fast, small target, easy to fly and powerfully armed.

[Robotic Pope]

The all the Jets in arcade are slower than the prop planes. Its like they didn't get the warp speed engine that the prop planes did. Stick with us playing sim Cryptic, you are getting good at it.

[olife]

personnaly i play sim at 98% of the time and one thing is sure:if u can fly faster with a propeller plane than with a jet as me163,262,he162 or arado234,the reason is there is an alien technology in your propeller plane!!lol!!!and i have the same opinion for arcade and realistic ,what is the interest to insert a jet planes in the game if there are slower than the propeller planes?in the real the ww2 propeller planes pilots were totaly unable to shoot a jet plane in dogfight exept by surprise or when they landed,the jet engines are too powerful for the poor propeller planes!!
your prob must be the internet connection

[FOZ_1983]

The Hurricane should ALWAYS out turn the Shitfire :D

Its good to see someone using it and using it well.... regardless of difficulty haha. IMO they are using the best thing. Kudos to them.

We shoudl start an exclusive club, the Hurricane users club :P

[mavrickandgoose]

The Hurricane should ALWAYS out turn the Shitfire :D

Its good to see someone using it and using it well.... regardless of difficulty haha. IMO they are using the best thing. Kudos to them.

We shoudl start an exclusive club, the Hurricane users club :P

play me 1v1 ill prove to you spit 2 out turns hurricane everytime

[FOZ_1983]

play me 1v1 ill prove to you spit 2 out turns hurricane everytime

This is a computer game.. doesnt count :P


In real life....

Hurri out turns the Spit :D
Hurri Is a more stable gun platform :D
Hurri is more forgiving :D
Hurri is capable of substaining more battle damage and still making it home :D
Hurri is better looking :P
Hurri is easier to land :D
Hurri is just better? :P
Hurri won the Battle of Britain :D
Hurri pilot got the only VC of the entire Battle of Britain :D
Hurri was the most versatile plane of the war :D
Foz is a Hurri fan boy :D :P can you tell?

Dont give me the bad points... please :(

[mavrickandgoose]

real life i thought this was about the game lol i still doubt that a hurricane would come close to beating a spit in a fight just my opinion

[FOZ_1983]

real life i thought this was about the game lol i still doubt that a hurricane would come close to beating a spit in a fight just my opinion

Ah right, my mistake. Sorry.

In the game alot of things are messed up, we just deal with it. I'd like a good old MkI Hurricane/Spitfire in the game, also like the Hurricane to have only 8 guns instead of 12 and for the love of god... i wish it sounded like a merlin. The spitfire and p51's have the sound, so no idea why the hurricane couldnt

:(

Dirty Russians.

[Cryptic Phant0m]

I still don't think its my connection.

Every time I try to hit her there is a slight pause and suddenly she jumps forward a few feet. I have only experienced this with her.

Tonight I used the Spit XII against her and she still out turned me.

Then I flew in a yak 3 and her in a 109 g6 and again she out turned me every time.

I thought that the Yak 3 was superior to the BF 109G's or at least in history.

Wiki
"Marcel Albert, the official top-scoring World War II French ace that flew the Yak in USSR with the Normandie-Niémen Group, regarded it a superior aircraft to the P-51D Mustang and to the Supermarine Spitfire."

[mavrickandgoose]

are you useing the rudder and brake when turning?

[Cryptic Phant0m]

Yes, If I am banking low to the left I would pull back the throttle and turn the rudder accordingly, while rolling to the left.

[mavrickandgoose]

then i have no idea i use spit 2 and kill hurricanes with ease

[Robotic Pope]

When I fly a Hurricane I can outturn every fighter exept for the I153, I16, La5 and the La7. At the right speed and elevator sensitivity the hurricane can turn inside a spitfire quite easily in sim.

[irishjg10]

I don't fly many dogfight missions but today I flew a LA-7 against a Spitfire in a 10 minute 1 vs 1 DF. He nailed me 5 times and I got him only once ! I thought I would at least be a match for him but he could out-turn me nearly the entire time. I tried slow fast high low but couldn't out turn. I havn't really used the La-7 before but will think twice about it again. Was it my connection ? Is the Spit really THAT good (i don't use it that much either) ??? BTW I use the regular PS3 controller, not a joystick. Should I get a joystick ?

[mavrickandgoose]

On arcade I out turn everything but a 153 in a spit 2 in realistic I use spit 9 and I am at least equal to anything I dint know how the xbox game works but I have never been outurned by a hurricane on any level in a spit also I thought the joystick was horrible

[irishjg10]

Thanks Mav. I'm gonna start flying more Dogfight missions and will try the spit to see how I fare-out. Another question ? I'm using a wireless router on my ps3, would I get greater control on gameplay and handling if I hard wired my ps3 to my internet at home ?

[trk29]

Thanks Mav. I'm gonna start flying more Dogfight missions and will try the spit to see how I fare-out. Another question ? I'm using a wireless router on my ps3, would I get greater control on gameplay and handling if I hard wired my ps3 to my internet at home ?

That is what I do. I hardwire the ps3 and let the computer go wireless. My gaming takes priority over my surfing. :)

[irishjg10]

thanks buddy. i might have a look at it this evening.

[mavrickandgoose]

i have used both wireless and hard wired both with no problem IMO the spit 9 is the best by far for realistic i think the only thing that is more manouverable is the la7 and only slightly but with the la7 haveing only 2 nose mounted cannons it makes it hard to hit anything the spit has a wider range of fire and is very stable when fireing its all i use in realistic i havnt played much sim but the games i have played i used the spit 9 and did fairly well