4.10 Torpedos

[Aviar]

From the 4.10 Guide:

Each torpedo type in IL-2 has its optimum drop parameters, of course some error is allowed,
but not too much.

• LT F5W (Italian Whitehead)
100m, 300Km/h

• LT F5B
40m, 250Km/h

• Mk13, Mk13a
30m, 205 km/h

• Mk13 late
180m, 400 km/h
(this torpedo had a much wider range of drop than the early one)

• Type91
30m, 240 Km/h

• Type91 late
60m, 330 km/h
(this torpedo had a much wider range of drop than the early one)

• 45-17
30m, 205 km/h


Some questions:

-What plane(s) carry the Mk13a and Mk13 late?

-The IL-2T carries the 45-12. I don't see that listed above.


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[=69.GIAP=TOOZ]

I think the Mk13 is the american torpedo? So, the A-20, and the TBM/TBF would carry it I would have thought.

[robtek]

The LT F5W has its limits at 100m and 300km/h, okay, but why do i get a "wrong angle" when i drop it at 50m at 250 km/h???
Thats well inside its limits.
Must those torpedoes dropped at those limits to work?

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Yes there is a tolerance around those numbers above, but mainly you should drop at those numbers, not inbetween a range.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Are those torpedo values maximum allowable or the average value? There for sure are minimum and maximum values for successful drop and if these values are average maybe it could be stated in the readme to avoid confusion :)

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

There is stated that those are the optimum numbers.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Thanks for clarifying that. And yes, guilty of not reading the readme inside out ;)

[ElAurens]

Still wondering about the different versions of the US and IJN torps as there is no documentation on when they come in to service, and they are not reflected in the arming screens.

[Aviar]

Still wondering about the different versions of the US and IJN torps as there is no documentation on when they come in to service, and they are not reflected in the arming screens.

Exactly....that's why I asked. I checked the planes that would carry Mk 13 torpedos and I did not see any Mk 13a or Mk 13 late. They were all Mk 13 only.

Also, I'm still hoping for an answer about the 45-12, which is carried by the IL-2T, but not listed in the Readme.

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[ElAurens]

Looks like there is another Russian torp as well, carried by the A 20 C, the 45-36AV-A.

Is there a comprehensive list of what we actually have, and when they are offered by year?

[JG53Frankyboy]

Looks like there is another Russian torp as well, carried by the A 20 C, the 45-36AV-A.

Is there a comprehensive list of what we actually have, and when they are offered by year?

this torpedo is one of the new torpedo bombs (at a parachute) that are heading a circle after hitting the water.............

[Katkatman]

this torpedo (mk13) seems able to be carryed on the Beaufighter.

[Ian Boys]

OK, I can confirm that the A20G carries the early Mk13. You need to be slow with flaps and at 30m pretty much dead on to drop straight.

I can't find any plane with the 13 late atm.

[Ian Boys]

BTW you can forget the thousands of metres for the circle torp. I've dropped one of those russian beauties at high speed and 170m alt. Lovely!!!

[Ian Boys]

Beaufighter also carries the slow/low torp. But why use it when the rockets sink a ship better?

[Faust]

I do not seem to be able to get a type 91 late torpedo. I setup G4M air starts at 30m, 240km/h and 60m, 330km/h and changed the date of the mission. Torps dropped at 60m, 330kph break up on entry into the water for all years 1940-1945. Torps dropped at 30m, 240km/h work fine.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong? Help appreciated.

[Azimech]

Yes, I too can't find the MK 13 late or Type 91 late, I've set the mission date to late 1946, but to no avail. TD, can we have an answer, please?

[JG53Frankyboy]

in the german UBI forum Caspar confirmed that at least the Mk13 late is missing in the game. he does not know why ;)

the Tyre 91 late propably too, or perhaps the H8K torpedo is ment..............

[Azimech]

I hope it can be included in the minipatch, right now the AI has great difficulties using the MK13 or Type 91, when trying to hit a fast moving carrier with strong headwind. I have to provide waypoints with the right speed and altitude from more than 15 km away or else they fail, and even then they often fail. And the first plane of that flight goes steady, while the rest keeps going up and down, frequently hitting the water.

[JG53Frankyboy]

I hope it can be included in the minipatch, right now the AI has great difficulties using the MK13 or Type 91, when trying to hit a fast moving carrier with strong headwind. I have to provide waypoints with the right speed and altitude from more than 15 km away or else they fail, and even then they often fail. And the first plane of that flight goes steady, while the rest keeps going up and down, frequently hitting the water.


what height you are setting at the attackwaypoint ?
im using 500m, the rest the AI is doing for itself. lower heights can only harm a propper AI attack - at least thats my observation

[Ventura]

I've been trying to create a late, Pacific Harbor raid and also could not get the Mk13 late. I asked about this in HL with no answer.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Caspar, member TD....................... no MK13 late in gameversion 4.10 , only mentioned in the Guide !!