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Drvn1
07-14-2010, 08:47 PM
Lets here your reasons as to why you play the way you do... I prefer Sim. Reason being is that I like the whole ambush or hide and attack part of it.. I also like to try and spot my enemy before he can spot me.. This was a huge factor in real life... Realistic is OK too. I played yesterday with a bunch of guys on realistic mode, however the target lock on or enemy tracking feature leads to bad habbits IMHO if your a sim player.. Even though I was playing realistic, I still did not use the left trigger to lock on or focus on the enemy, I stuck with the sim way and used R3 toggle as I know if i get used to using the left trigger I will try it in sim and that is not what i want to do I already had to break that habbit LOL....

So anyway, lets hear your reasons...

Robotic Pope
07-15-2010, 12:44 AM
I second all that you said Drvn. Its Sim for me unless i'm playing with the guys that only do realistic. Can't really do arcade as its just not fun for me.

In sim I can use my flaps and trim to fly the plane better than in realistic. I can use boom & zoom tactics with my Mustangs and Butcherbirds more effectively. When im playing realistic i realise im shooting at red squares rather than at planes and it anoys me that the zoom button switches to the X button so I have to take my thumb off the rudder to use it. Oh and in sim its posible to lose someone off your 6 and if you get someone to overshoot you, you get the advantage as they have often lost sight of you and don't know which way to turn, while in realistic he can just follow the homing arrows.

Basicly in Sim the skill of a player has more influence than in realistic. Doing well in sim is less down to using the best planes, which is the case in realistic.

Cryptic Phant0m
07-15-2010, 01:37 AM
I fly realistic only because I cannot finish the tutorial for the sim mode.

I shoot down the 1st enemy plane, but in the process I lose sight of the instructor and I can never find him again. :neutral:

Mage_016
07-15-2010, 08:51 AM
I second all that you said Drvn. Its Sim for me unless i'm playing with the guys that only do realistic. Can't really do arcade as its just not fun for me.
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+1 I hate those red blibs in realistic. Never really played with arcade.

Zatoichi_Sanjuro
07-15-2010, 02:51 PM
I fly realistic only because I cannot finish the tutorial for the sim mode.

I shoot down the 1st enemy plane, but in the process I lose sight of the instructor and I can never find him again. :neutral:

Isn't he the blue marker on your map?

markyboyacebassist
07-15-2010, 06:55 PM
+1 I hate those red blibs in realistic. Never really played with arcade.

Just turn off your HUD display when playing realistic.

dkwookie
07-15-2010, 07:14 PM
Sim is alright if you have a 40" telly and 20/20 eyesight. I play on a 21" monitor and last time I played sim I ended up shooting at a Coke stain on my LCD

winny
07-15-2010, 07:36 PM
Sim is alright if you have a 40" telly and 20/20 eyesight. I play on a 21" monitor and last time I played sim I ended up shooting at a Coke stain on my LCD

hehe.. I was shooting at a very small fly last week, looked just like a Spitfire. (I missed him)

Robotic Pope
07-15-2010, 07:46 PM
Sim is alright if you have a 40" telly and 20/20 eyesight. I play on a 21" monitor and last time I played sim I ended up shooting at a Coke stain on my LCD

haha I do have pretty good eyes but I do only use a 19" widescreen monitor in 1440x900 mode on the xbox meaning it has black bars top and bottom of the screen so probably only 17" viewable picture. 2 Broken pixels on the left of the screen and dead thunderfly inside the bottom right of the screen that have to be ignored as possible bandits :-P

So it is possible to be good at sim without the super tech.

markyboyacebassist
07-15-2010, 09:42 PM
haha I do have pretty good eyes but I do only use a 19" widescreen monitor in 1440x900 mode on the xbox meaning it has black bars top and bottom of the screen so probably only 17" viewable picture. 2 Broken pixels on the left of the screen and dead thunderfly inside the bottom right of the screen that have to be ignored as possible bandits :-P

So it is possible to be good at sim without the super tech.


You're just a natural born killing machine Mr Pope!:-P

vdomini
07-16-2010, 10:04 AM
Lets here your reasons as to why you play the way you do... I prefer Sim. Reason being is that I like the whole ambush or hide and attack part of it.. I also like to try and spot my enemy before he can spot me.. This was a huge factor in real life... Realistic is OK too. I played yesterday with a bunch of guys on realistic mode, however the target lock on or enemy tracking feature leads to bad habbits IMHO if your a sim player.. Even though I was playing realistic, I still did not use the left trigger to lock on or focus on the enemy, I stuck with the sim way and used R3 toggle as I know if i get used to using the left trigger I will try it in sim and that is not what i want to do I already had to break that habbit LOL....

So anyway, lets hear your reasons...


I have tryed arcade mode a couple of time at the beginning, and i didn't liked it. I don't like arcade games in general.

Realistic mode is better than arcade but is not very far from it, having an arrows that tells you where is the enemy and a map on screen.

I prefer playing simulator because i feel like more realistic than any other game mode. I know il2 just a game so i take it as it is, i'm not expecting a full realistic experience from this game but it's more fun playing that way.


HAVE FUN!

1.JaVA_LGorrit
07-16-2010, 10:57 AM
I prefer playing simulator because i feel like more realistic than any other game mode. I know il2 just a game so i take it as it is, i'm not expecting a full realistic experience from this game but it's more fun playing that way.

+1

Cryptic Phant0m
07-16-2010, 03:27 PM
:grin: I just unlocked Sim, it was hard for me because I forgot all about the map and as I said before I was always losing my instructor, but I was able to finish this time. :rolleyes:

Soviet Ace
07-16-2010, 11:49 PM
:grin: I just unlocked Sim, it was hard for me because I forgot all about the map and as I said before I was always losing my instructor, but I was able to finish this time. :rolleyes:

Now you'll see how "easy" it was for pilots in an I-16 to land... which was the cause of most I-16 pilots deaths... just saying. :P

hurricane
07-17-2010, 02:28 PM
I prefer sim myself but it is cool to see your plane in 3rd person view sometimes.usually i just kick back with my gamepad so it can be more relaxing for me since i cant fly for shit with a game pad on sim.i know what your thinking popey "i can't fly with a stick either". It's relaxing that is unless i'm getting a severe ass kicking from a realistic hotshot.

Drvn1
07-19-2010, 09:58 PM
Funny you guys mention the vision issues. I started out plying sim on a 64" Rear projection TV and did Horrible.. moved to the other room with a 24-27" normal TV non HD and improved dratically on a TV 1/3 the size LOL

i also use the game pad as my flightstick took a poop after 3 days of use :rolleyes:

shnix
07-19-2010, 11:48 PM
I second all that you said Drvn. Its Sim for me unless i'm playing with the guys that only do realistic. Can't really do arcade as its just not fun for me.

In sim I can use my flaps and trim to fly the plane better than in realistic. I can use boom & zoom tactics with my Mustangs and Butcherbirds more effectively. When im playing realistic i realise im shooting at red squares rather than at planes and it anoys me that the zoom button switches to the X button so I have to take my thumb off the rudder to use it. Oh and in sim its posible to lose someone off your 6 and if you get someone to overshoot you, you get the advantage as they have often lost sight of you and don't know which way to turn, while in realistic he can just follow the homing arrows.

Basicly in Sim the skill of a player has more influence than in realistic. Doing well in sim is less down to using the best planes, which is the case in realistic.

I like sim because I get to shoot at pope. The best satisfaction for anyone on sim on the 360 is making bucket the first kill of a deathmatch

shnix
07-20-2010, 12:14 AM
Honestly though, I think that a kill is too easy in realistic but in sim, to shoot down pope or brickster or any of these people takes alot of effort and for this reason, you don't get a kill on sim, you earn it, making sim far more rewarding. There are lots of reasons why, it's a pain to find your enemy, You also have to look around, find them, watch your rear, all while preventing spins and stalls, but all this leads to fighting for a kill. When you finish a 20minute game when the winner got 3 kills, you know it's been a hard faught battle. Also, from what I've seen on sim,on the xbox, the usuals are a friendly bunch to chat to and a good laugh but utterly cut throat competetive at the same time.

Robotic Pope
07-20-2010, 12:16 AM
I like sim because I get to shoot at pope. The best satisfaction for anyone on sim on the 360 is making bucket the first kill of a deathmatch

I get a lot of satisfaction from killing Bucketman's hurricane first in team deathmatch too, especialy when he's on my own team :-P

markyboyacebassist
07-20-2010, 10:16 PM
I get a lot of satisfaction from killing Bucketman's hurricane first in team deathmatch too, especialy when he's on my own team :-P

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

scottyvt4
07-20-2010, 10:34 PM
can play arcade - but only using it to get some last load outs for some aircraft, the analness of some of the players (that wont play realistic cause they would get there ass kicked) kills me its like CoD mod war 2 but with planes

realistic is my prefered level of play good balance with a couple of perks like the taget cam saves you looking for a target, which IMO is the only difference (there a subtlties re. aircraft handleing flaps but not many)

hurricane
07-21-2010, 12:14 AM
is this a case of the old saying "familiarity builds contempt".bucketmanroc is one of the nicest guys that play this game.he is one of the best people i know.could you please stop picking on him.he probably flys the hurricane all the time for the same reason that he drives a 23 year old pickuptruck.

Robotic Pope
07-21-2010, 12:41 AM
is this a case of the old saying "familiarity builds contempt".bucketmanroc is one of the nicest guys that play this game.he is one of the best people i know.could you please stop picking on him.he probably flys the hurricane all the time for the same reason that he drives a 23 year old pickuptruck.

Oh ok then.

By the way I think Ive found a picture of your pickup :-P
http://media.nowpublic.net/images/dd/e/dde565823ce8d3165d1df3ba9adfe0ac.jpg

hurricane
07-22-2010, 12:05 AM
classic pope.

Shadowcorp
07-22-2010, 12:22 AM
I like both game modes, but find realistic tougher and more challenging; because of people knowing where i am. In sim the complete realism makes it harder for people to single me out when i'm winning and makes me a little complacent.
Though sim is very enjoyable, i have observed the difference between those who can shoot and those who cannot is most keenly felt here and would not recommend it to any new pilots unless an experienced player gave you shooting practice first.
Both modes are fun but most of my friends play realistic, i have a better time playing with my friends and clan-mates, despite the occasional jackass interruptions (Cough Roshpl Cough).
I have always detected a condescending and superior attitude present in some of the more vocal simulator pilots which isn't justified by their skills or kills.
This said there are more good hearted players than snobby supercilious ones, in both modes to be sure. It's just a matter of finding a good group of players to game with, you'll find good laughs and good times along the way.

As always i speak about the ps3 and it's community

how my views have changed since arcade!

Spln_Sir
07-22-2010, 12:54 AM
Not sour grapes bit I wish other simmers would join me about 5000 ft above sea level. Creeping at 50 ft above sea level isn't how it was done.

The Few
07-22-2010, 02:25 AM
Not sour grapes bit I wish other simmers would join me about 5000 ft above sea level. Creeping at 50 ft above sea level isn't how it was done.

if you are on ps3 a bunch of us play team battle on strike most of the time. it makes the game a little more tactical in that you have time to climb since you are almost always spawning away from the action and the kill credit glitch doesn't come into play since no matter what as long as your opponents plane goes down they will always lose a point. most of the fighting usually starts above 5000ft so you have options to dive away or bounce oppoents below you

Lexandro
07-22-2010, 02:35 AM
can play arcade - but only using it to get some last load outs for some aircraft, the analness of some of the players (that wont play realistic cause they would get there ass kicked) kills me its like CoD mod war 2 but with planes

realistic is my prefered level of play good balance with a couple of perks like the taget cam saves you looking for a target, which IMO is the only difference (there a subtlties re. aircraft handleing flaps but not many)

Im exclusively an Arcade player, buts not to do with not wanting to loose. As I have said previously I dont have a stick for the 360 and the pad just isnt good enough for me to fly in a realistic or sim-like manner. I simple cant get used to things like the rudders being so sensative with the pad, especially with the stick also controlling the throttle and no custom controls available.

I have the skill required to play on higher settings, I know that much. I just dont have the equipment I require to do so.