I have to excuse me... :(

[STINGERSIX78]

since i try to get the dogfight trophy, i use the i-16 or the i-153. it is a shame for me to shoot the aussie and asian comrades down with this planes. but if u want win, u must choose this little bastards. arcade also suxx. i get wuzzy in my brain to turn out the spits and 109.
never again, when i own this trophy...
pls take my apology.

[olife]

since i try to get the dogfight trophy, i use the i-16 or the i-153. it is a shame for me to shoot the aussie and asian comrades down with this planes. but if u want win, u must choose this little bastards. arcade also suxx. i get wuzzy in my brain to turn out the spits and 109.
never again, when i own this trophy...
pls take my apology.

no probs
no worries
u can use all the planes u unlock but i understand the guys who are angry against i 16 and i 153 and i respect them
fly with the planes u like and days by days u will find maybe an other plane u like and u will use it with success
it is just a game for fun and i sure the others players understand u .there are a lot of very sympathetic guys in this game
good hunting

[FOZ_1983]

Haha dont worry about it. A good pilot will find a way to defeat you ;) so no need to apologise.

[STINGERSIX78]

sure. but the newbies ever try a turnbattle...

[FOZ_1983]

The "newbies" might try a turn battle and they will lose against you.


Its upto them to figure out a new way to get you. Play on your weakness etc. Trial and error, they will soon figure it out for themselves. Dont worry about them :D

[STINGERSIX78]

but sometimes , i feel me realy bad.
there comes a new comrade to enjoy il-2, and i raped him down till he quit the game.
with these, uhmm, old, ugly, rusty, pieces of soviet engineer-art. ^^
nothing against russian weapons.

[FOZ_1983]

but sometimes , i feel me realy bad.
there comes a new comrade to enjoy il-2, and i raped him down till he quit the game.
with these, uhmm, old, ugly, rusty, pieces of soviet engineer-art. ^^
nothing against russian weapons - dont let soviet ace read this ;) lol.

I agree with you to a certain degree, it is annoying for them. But when they DO shoot you down they will feel some pride and satisfaction :D

they will get over it :D just carry on slaughtering them

[STINGERSIX78]

i like russian weapons !! until a bi-plane ownes high-end piston fighters... ^^

[lost cause]

I've been in some lobbies where the host would not start the game if there was an 153 in it. I didn't use it to win dogfights. I only used it to get its unlocks as required by the rules. It is a cheap kill machine for sure in turn fights, especially in arcade. You wouldn't get me, though!!!!!!

[Soviet Ace]

I agree with you to a certain degree, it is annoying for them. But when they DO shoot you down they will feel some pride and satisfaction :D

they will get over it :D just carry on slaughtering them

Ah how sweet, you even put it in red lettering for me. :P

Anyway OP, don't worry about it so much. Russian planes are FAR more capable than they would seem (I mean the I-16 and I-153, the La's and Yak's are obvious.) Either play to the weaknesses of the planes: Climbing, Speed, and diving. (Incase you haven't noticed already, the I-16 and I-153 both have their engines die if you go into a dive without rolling first due to the float carburetor, they were equipped with.) Anyway, if your playing Arcade, it's kinda hard to play to the weaknesses because everyone is flying a Me-163 etc. :P

So do what FOZ said, and keep slaughtering them because they'll soon learn not to turn with you in a fight. Though most 'Rookies' do end up turning, it's not your fault they do. They're just unexperienced with planes and don't know what to do against such a small maneuverable plane. :cool:

[fuzzychickens]

since i try to get the dogfight trophy, i use the i-16 or the i-153. it is a shame for me to shoot the aussie and asian comrades down with this planes. but if u want win, u must choose this little bastards. arcade also suxx. i get wuzzy in my brain to turn out the spits and 109.
never again, when i own this trophy...
pls take my apology.

Try that in 1946 online. 99% of the players would avoid turning with you and your only action would be BNZ attacks to which you can't respond until someone puts the final nail in your coffin.

It's an entirely different group of opponents on the PC.

[olife]

in realistic mode or sim the 153 can be fair
first this plane is really not solid:in sim or realistic if u try to fly with it "without great delicacy"(as me i can be idiot)for sure it is an engine failure!!i had 5 crashes in the game of 20 minutes because of it!
second :not much bullets can destroy him
and i find there are not a lot of bullets in the 153 guns
third:it is very slow!!!!!!!!!!
buy i m agree it is the best in tights turns and in arcade this plane is really a terror if u try to engage the dogfights with him !!never do it and maybe u will destroy this byplane!!
i thinks also that it is just a game,for fun,win or loose is not the question just have a great fun and try to progess
if someone like the 153 or spit or blenheim or others planes fly with them and have a fun!!!!

[Panzergranate]

I shot down 6x I-16 and 2 x I-153 with a Hurricane in a single 10 minute arcade game.

The I-16 and I-153 can't perform certain aerobatics, such as retournements (rudder hard over and elevators up with aerolons level), usually ending up in a tumble.

It works for the Spitfire and Bf-109 just as well, but for best effect use a Hurricane. Both the I-16 and I-153 have zero armour, not that this matters as a retournment gives a good few seconds of shooting from above and behind with a good lead or target.

If that fails, just lure them up high, where they're both slow and clumsey, and nail them.

Like Foz say, skilled players treat both the I-16 and I-153 as either a nuisance or easy prey.

[Soviet Ace]

I shot down 6x I-16 and 2 x I-153 with a Hurricane in a single 10 minute arcade game.

The I-16 and I-153 can't perform certain aerobatics, such as retournements (rudder hard over and elevators up with aerolons level), usually ending up in a tumble.

It works for the Spitfire and Bf-109 just as well, but for best effect use a Hurricane. Both the I-16 and I-153 have zero armour, not that this matters as a retournment gives a good few seconds of shooting from above and behind with a good lead or target.

If that fails, just lure them up high, where they're both slow and clumsey, and nail them.

Like Foz say, skilled players treat both the I-16 and I-153 as either a nuisance or easy prey.

The I-16 and I-153 Chaika have armor. Whenever I fly the I-16, I can take loads of damage and keep the bird up in the air. The I-153, even more so.... maybe because of the wings? Anyway, the only Russian planes I can think of off hand in BoP with insufficient armor would be the Po-2 (The second biplane with no forward firing gun... obviously, and the Yak-1b which surprisingly holds up well when hit hard, but still doesn't have sufficient armor. :D)

[FOZ_1983]

I shot down 6x I-16 and 2 x I-153 with a Hurricane in a single 10 minute arcade game.

The I-16 and I-153 can't perform certain aerobatics, such as retournements (rudder hard over and elevators up with aerolons level), usually ending up in a tumble.

It works for the Spitfire and Bf-109 just as well, but for best effect use a Hurricane. Both the I-16 and I-153 have zero armour, not that this matters as a retournment gives a good few seconds of shooting from above and behind with a good lead or target.

If that fails, just lure them up high, where they're both slow and clumsey, and nail them.

Like Foz say, skilled players treat both the I-16 and I-153 as either a nuisance or easy prey.


To be fair though mate i could take a 747 into an arcade game and stand a good chance of winning. Arcade does let each plane have its individuality and what makes it great or bad. It makes every plane act the same - just gives them a different colour scheme or look.

That aside, what your saying is true.

[InfiniteStates]

I love dogfighting with fighters while in an ILx in arcade. Those forward guns are sweet.