How close have you come to blackout?

[InfiniteStates]

As some of you may or may not be aware, blackouts, or at least the pre-cursor to them, actually are in the game...

You may have noticed eye-shaped black fuzziness around the edges of the screen, and also your can hear some heavy breathing. I've noticed this before, but not until the intensity of edal's tournament flying against SubaruGaz did I actually think "sh*t...I might actually lose control of my plane".

I was cruising just below the cloud cover, scouring the ground for that little tell-tale spec. There! I dive, but mis-judge it and the point of interception is quite a way behind him. So I slam on combat flaps and throw my spitfire into a hard left bank, with rudder for extra oompf.

Then the screen edges start closing in, leaving me about a 20% strip of actual visibilty across the middle of the screen and the breathing gets really heavy. That was the closest I've come to a full blackout in my BoP career.

Has anyone actually blacked out? Or has anyone managed to achieve the pre-cursor to a red-out?

I've a horrible feeling I'm going to need to re-learn some techniques (or reduce elevator sensitivity further) when the patch makes these things easier to do....

[SEE]

I get the black outs frequently but I'm an old git so to be expected at my age............:grin:

Noticed if you turn the brightness up in the options menu they become less noticeable......

[xX-SiLeNcE-Xx]

In a Bi-plane I was in training just trying to black-out/Red-out. The closest I got to black was when the entire screen turned black, except for a tiny circle in the center (6" or so) was super dark.

For redout I used the comet, and did inverted loops until I hit the ground. It got so red, I could barely judge height, but I never actualy fully redded out.

[durangodoug]

I've only noticed it once on realistic, Red Skies of Dover. I was attacking the top box of He-111s minding my own business, when a 109 flew right past me, very close by. I was almost surprised because while flying and watching the hurricanes I forgot the bombers had fighter escort lol. Anyways, he comes tearing past my plane in a dive, I quickly roll left and reverse direction into a dive after him. Problem was he started pulling up after he flew past me, so I dived below him, while trying to pull up I knew the plane was on the verge of stalling but I kept with it and pulled up harder. I saw the screen start to fade, heard the breathing, and my sound actually faded out. When I finally pulled out of the dive the 109 was right in front of me, I started to shoot, but still couldn't hear my guns...but I saw tracers. It was awesome, my sound faded back in just as my shots hit along his wing then blew his engine. Then my living room was filled with the sounds of war again lol

[bobswar]

i did an inverted loop in a 109 an managed to red out a bit (the bottom quarter of the screen started to go red)

[kozzm0]

Nope, I've never seen the screen even start to go black at the edges. If the breathing starts, I just throttle down a bit.

When I'm going fast enough to produce a blackout, I generally either slow down first if I'm attacking, or use the speed to extend if I'm evading.

I think with most planes, once you start a potential blackout turn, by the time it gets to that point, the turn has drained so much speed that the blackout is averted.

[InfiniteStates]

Maybe it's the way I turn then, because I treat it like a car, but in 3-D. i.e. brake into the turn and power out... Seems to work quite well. Until the patch - then I have a horrible feeling I will be falling unconscious from the sky quite a bit :evil:

But hey - at least someone will probably get given the kill :grin:

[haitch40]

ive had a total blackout
109s spew so much oil lol

[Panzergranate]

I managed a blackout last night whilst flying a Finnish B-239 Buffalo in a career mission on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles".

I'd flown a few missions with this aircraft but never had to actually pull any serious stunts or evades with it until then.

I was chasing a Russian L2D tansport plane when a Russian P-40 latched onto my tail. Without thinking, I instinctively I rolled to 90 Degrees left and pulled back hard on a stick. This made the Buffalo pull a 100 yard radius left turn at close to 300 MPH.... and the G-force blacked me out for 4 seconds.

A normal fighter would have pulled a far wider several hundred yard radius turn and not pulled the same G-force, hence why I performed the maneuver.

Fortunately the Buffalo is famous for being unable to spin both in real life and in simulators, so the plane didn't do anything bad by itself. I also had plenty of altitude

The Russian P-40 was nowhere to be seen, obviously being unable to follow.

I'd lost my fix on the transports and the other Finnish fighters were rapidly wiping the sky clear of Russian aircraft, so I decided to shoot up an airfield I'd spotted earlier. I score 5 grounded aircraft, all the FlaK guns and a few trucks before the guns ran dry. I always use up the nose guns first and then use the wing guns when straffing as it gives more firing time.

In IL-2 BOP on the 360, I've had a cockpit hit on a Me-163 Komet cause what seemd like an Oxygen tank failure during a dogfight at 30,000 Feet plus. The cockpit area was black and there was the sound of gasping for air and haziness around the screen edges until I dropped to around 10,000 Feet.

[Reddisback]

ive had a total blackout
109s spew so much oil lol

that happend to me several times, actually.
but it was a Spitfire that caused them :-P :grin: :cool: LOL

[trk29]

I have never seen any sign of a red out, but I have had the edges shrink in on me and all sounds dissapear except the breathing during a black out but not totally.

[Factor]

I blacked out this morning after finishing off two twelve packs, and half a fifth of Makers.

Don't feel so hot now.

[xX-SiLeNcE-Xx]

I blacked out this morning after finishing off two twelve packs, and half a fifth of Makers.

Don't feel so hot now.

Bahaha :D

[kozzm0]

For practice with accurate g effects without spending any money on it, try downloading the Targetware beta. Almost entirely user-created, it includes all the details people usually mention when they complain about the accuracy of commercial sims, as it was made by ones who complained. It's not complete, and nobody ever plays it, but it strives for realism above all else. Including flak that kills you quick, unforgiving blackouts and redouts, accurate ammunition and ordnance amounts and effects. And fully configurable stick characteristics, including for gamepads. Also real bombsights.

Not to mention, no WEP, and the engine still overheats if you're not careful... also, no HUD, must use the cockpit instruments.

Anyone who gets Targetware, look me up for a one-on-one battle in the Tobruk module ("Tobruk must fall" is a good air-to-air scenario). Unless you manage to find someone else playing, which I can't.

[trk29]

Can people play against each other if they run different os, mac and windows?

[kozzm0]

Can people play against each other if they run different os, mac and windows?

Yes. It's entirely cross-platform, though I think you might have to use Java to install it.

The modules made so far are Tobruk (mediterranean/Sicily/Italy), Rabaul (Pacific air war), Richthofen's Skies (ww1), War over Poland, and the original Target Korea. In Korea you can fly Mig-15 and f-86, but careful with the engine temperature.

[trk29]

Yes. It's entirely cross-platform, though I think you might have to use Java to install it.

The modules made so far are Tobruk (mediterranean/Sicily/Italy), Rabaul (Pacific air war), Richthofen's Skies (ww1), War over Poland, and the original Target Korea. In Korea you can fly Mig-15 and f-86, but careful with the engine temperature.

Checked it out. I may just download this to see how it is.

[kozzm0]

Checked it out. I may just download this to see how it is.

let me know when you get used to the planes, they're hard to fly... I've had targetware a long time

for practice use one of the bombing range modules, or the Target Tobruk "war in the desert" cause there's no flak and lots of things you can kill with guns and small bombs.