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Shadowcorp
11-18-2009, 11:26 AM
Seeing a well organised sim tournament has given me the incentive to organise one such tournament for arcade.

A 4 v 4 team squadron tournament

i know of two teams already. This is an opportunity to get together with friends and have fun.

We all know ww2 was not won by individual pilots but by elite squadrons lets see if we can't get some going in this great title.

(i understand the recent release of MW2 will slow the organisation of this tournament i expect to have it running for the february)

Rules are as follows
20 minutes engagement
any conditions (bar storm) to be agreed by teams before said event
aircraft/loadout limitation no rockets
all matches are for fun any angry text or voice exchanges will result in disqualification and forfieture of match in question. As will any breach of aircraft/loadout limitation.
Will be a group to tournament depending on numbers (i'm confident theres enough players in arcade), group winners/loser brackets potentially

IamKFAM
11-18-2009, 12:28 PM
I don't have a squad, but good for you Shadow! Good to see someone else breathing life into the game...

I hope the patch comes soon...

How did you do in the 101 / guest tourney?

kozzm0
11-18-2009, 12:38 PM
no i 153. For it is the height of cheese


well said. Cheese should never be stacked that high let alone allowed to fly.

InfiniteStates
11-18-2009, 03:32 PM
well said. Cheese should never be stacked that high let alone allowed to fly.

LOL nice :) (deja vu)

olife
11-18-2009, 08:33 PM
don't understand what is your prob with the i 153
guys it seems u are afraid of the 153 but90% of the guys engage the dogfight in tight turns with the 153 and after they said " it is unfair!!!"
hey guys choice the best tacticals vs the 153!!!that is all!!!
if u found this plane too good ...use it!!!!and please stop to say "it is unfair" or "i153 is a plane for noobs"
a lot of players don't want fight vs i 153 because in my opinion they are afraid to loose instead of fight and try to find a good tacticals vs i 153: it is too easy !!!!!!!!
now i begin to use the spit to be good with and other plane and i don't cry because the jets are too speed,because the guns in turret are too dangerous,because the 153 is "unfair"no guys,no !!!
i m not a good player and i know it but i think the better pilots can fight and win vs all the planes even the 153!!for the moment i see just one who can beat all the planes :drdeath5000
follow his example guys!!!!!!!!and stop to cry!!!THANKS A LOT!!!

Ancient Seraph
11-18-2009, 08:45 PM
Mostly depends on difficulty settings. It's not great in sim/realistic, but I heard it's a bit ridiculous on Arcade, because it can also fly at warp-speed.

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx
11-18-2009, 09:08 PM
LOL, on Sim, I have no problems with any of the planes. If someone chooses an I53, I just take the Bf-109K4 and vise versa... Arcade, well thats a whole nother story, Like stated above, it can fly at warp speed XD

olife
11-18-2009, 09:39 PM
good meaning xxsilencexx
i know u are very good

lost cause
11-18-2009, 11:52 PM
Oh boy! I got something to say on this. First, I play arcade like every weekday night and have for about 2 months, so I'm talking from experience. The 153 is not a warp speed fighter. It can't catch anything other than a bomber and it can keep up with the I-16. I walk away from it all the time. That's its weakness. The reason why its deadly good in dogfights is because ALL the dogfights involving 5 or more degenerate into a huge furball that gets lower and lower until it is on the deck. Twisting, turning, slow speed mess. The 153s bread and butter. For some Russisn reason, it has one hell of a set of 1930s guns on it! Unbelievable. Running and gunning is possible in this game but you will won't win doing it. In twenty minutes, I've found 15+ kills to be routine (not for me, unfortunately). Every time I try to use the 153 to get the unlocks, someone msgs me telling me to ditch the cheap kill master. I know of two guys, if they are the host, who won't start a game with it in there. Spitfires, Hurricaines, 109s rule in Arcade. With the nature of the game being the way it is, turn and burn is all we are going to get, unless you don't mind losing. I challenge myself in other ways. I always want to be the least killed and I strive for the best killer/killed ratio. That won't unlock weapons, but it is fun to use other planes and burn these guys when they don't see it coming. Here's hoping the 190 and p51 only have enough fuel for a 30 minute fight and not a 12 hr flight! Long live the I-153!!!!!!!!! Just deal with it.

Shadowcorp
11-19-2009, 12:00 AM
teams so far
dekz, shinigami, dkwookie and winny representing Rogue Squadron
ratman, iamjack, bilster and potentially another of 101st Skullbreakers
myself, paginas got one slot pending and one open

lost cause
11-19-2009, 12:18 AM
Roger. Out.

durangodoug
11-19-2009, 01:43 AM
Man this sounds awesome, sign me up, only issue is I don't have a squadron. However I do love this game and I like to play online. Add me on psn, any of you ps3 guys

psn ID: durangodoug

winny
11-19-2009, 09:01 AM
all matches are for fun any angry text or voice exchanges will result in disqualification and forfieture of match in question.


I'd be up for this as long as you stick by your own rule above. You know what I'm talking about.

:)

McQ59
11-19-2009, 09:29 AM
A great idea and a mostly welcome initativ!
I'd love to be a part of a team and play battles. I'm not a very good pilot/player, but I play this wonderfull game just for the laughs and fun of it, and for the looks of the beatuful planes in it. And I guess I'm learning something new every time I log on...

Anyone who who will take the chance to make me one of his/hers team-mate is welcome to contact me here or on psn.

Hope to see u in the skies guys!

InfiniteStates
11-19-2009, 11:07 AM
EDIT: deleted to move to a new thread. Sorry ShadowCorp.

Shadowcorp
11-19-2009, 11:20 AM
GUYS WHO WANT TO TAKE PART BUT CANNOT FIND 3 FRIENDS TO SQUAD WITH LEAVE YOUR NAME AND I WILL INTRODUCE YOU TO OTHERS WHO CAN'T FIELD A SQUAD OF 4, THAT WAY YOU CAN GET SOME PRACTICE IN TOGETHER.

sorry for caps. just easier way of getting my post noticed.

dkwookie
11-19-2009, 04:34 PM
I am up for this. When u planning it for shadow? I have limited time for ps3 at moment so post on here when you plan it. I will have to get some practice in, been getting rusty!

winny
11-19-2009, 04:42 PM
I am up for this. When u planning it for shadow? I have limited time for ps3 at moment so post on here when you plan it. I will have to get some practice in, been getting rusty!

If you need a wingman let me know.. Am looking for a squad..

olife
11-19-2009, 04:43 PM
PLEASE KEEP ON SUBJECT START A NEW THREAD SUBJECT I153 if you must![/QUOTE]

ok no probs exuse me

dkwookie
11-19-2009, 04:52 PM
If you need a wingman let me know.. Am looking for a squad..

Totally that's a deal, we will have to find 2 more for the team. Everyone plays mw2 these days so it may be tricky. Shadow would you consider a 2v2 side tourny?

Shadowcorp
11-19-2009, 05:16 PM
Don't expect the tourny to be running for another month. I want to set it up right and that might take a while, in my experience rush jobs never work well. WATCH THIS SPACE FOR LATEST UPDATES

InfiniteStates
11-19-2009, 06:01 PM
I would wait until dkwookie and winny have got bored of the idea and moved on else the outcome will be a foregone conclusion lol

I've flown against both these guys and you're doomed I tell ya! DOOMED :evil:

Shadowcorp
11-19-2009, 10:05 PM
are you wanting to sign up infinite state?

InfiniteStates
11-20-2009, 09:52 AM
Joke, dude. Joke.

You're one serious mofo huh?

Shadowcorp
11-23-2009, 02:47 PM
about setting up this tournament yes, so do you want to sign up?

Shadowcorp
12-09-2009, 06:29 PM
i only have two confirmed 4 man teams, please sign some more name so i can get this thing running

dkwookie
12-09-2009, 06:36 PM
Well as far as I am aware we have a team:
dkwookie
winny 1973
dekz_09*
shinigamidragoon*

*verbal confirmation depending on timings.

Who are the other 4 man teams by the way?

If I cant get a team together I would still like to enter, so if it falls through and there are drop outs on another team let me know.

Shadowcorp
12-09-2009, 06:40 PM
that was one of the teams i had in mind, the other is composed of petterman, iamjack billster and possibly ratman or alwildy.
I haven't gotten a confirmation from my wingmen yet,

RCfalcon
12-10-2009, 06:01 AM
Its nice to see someone step up to do an arcade tourney as well.

With the patch coming out, and this...I think im going to try and get by squadron back together if I can get them off MW2.

Shadowcorp
12-11-2009, 02:13 PM
even if you can't get a full team together RC i will be able to get you a few pilots to fill out your squadron

dkwookie
12-17-2009, 11:15 AM
Shadow, any news on dates for this? You mentioned over Christmas a while back.
Do we have rules in stone, no rockets, 153, bombers etc?

Shadowcorp
12-17-2009, 11:19 AM
Due to a lack of some teams organisation. i have guys telling me they can get four man squads but not telling me who they are fielding.

The 153 and i16 ban has been lifted and rockets can not be used.
because of the eight man nature of the battles head to head charge scenarios are unlikley.

dkwookie
12-17-2009, 11:34 AM
Thats a downer

half my team have defected to sim mode. I dont know what has gotten into them

InfiniteStates
12-17-2009, 01:02 PM
the 153 ban has been lifted and rockets can be used. No i 16 however.
LOL errr....? How is the I-16 worse then the I-153?

half my team have defected to sim mode. I dont know what has gotten into them
Sense :):P [Joke - each to their own]

Shadowcorp
12-17-2009, 01:32 PM
I'm still going to run this tournament, but no longer through these forums as they are frequented more by sim players than arcade players, no sim pilot has been brave enough to volunteer.
So i'll leave the sim clique alone and organise this event by other means. If you want to volunteer a team contact me through my psn (shadowcorp) all players are welcome and equal.

dkwookie
12-17-2009, 02:08 PM
Thats very true. I can count the number of arcade players in these forums on one hand. Which is cool except arcade mode seems to get viewed as some dumb mode.

Threads like "getting out of the arcade mindset" and such dont really do much to help out. I have kept quiet on this but winny put a post in a while ago asking why everyone looks down on the arcade mode and players. I have played a few sim games and its cool but I prefer arcade as its fast and brutal and goes better with my music when I play.

Anyway I will be in touch on PSN to organise it. We can always have some ad hoc team battles over Christmas :)

InfiniteStates
12-17-2009, 02:41 PM
Sim tests you on a similar playing field to an actual pilot, where as arcade is more of an FPS type test of twitch gaming. Neither is better or worse, but there are many other games you can play to fulfill the twitch itch.

And as you get to the top of your game in one difficulty, it seems, at least for me, to exclude you more from the others. For instance I always used to play arcade mode. But I'm a bad shot, so the insane levels of damage you need to inflict coupled with the kill stealing pushed me more towards realistic. When I first tried sim I was so bad at it, and I hated it. But I stuck with it and got a kill or two and then I was hooked.

And now I can't play realistic without stalling all the time, because I fly it like sim but can't control my flaps. And the damage model in arcade, coupled with the different way of flying and the insane speeds are almost a different game. So for me, the difficulty is actually now reversed, with arcade being the hardest.

But I'm sorry if you feel looked down upon for liking arcade. I can't say I get that impression from the community, but then maybe I wouldn't notice. Arcade is still the most popular mode by far though, and everyone who paid money for the game is entitled to enjoy it as they see fit.

Shadowcorp
12-17-2009, 03:07 PM
Thank you for your reply on this subject. Much of what you say is true.
However i don't feel looked down on, i enjoy the game and play it well as i'm a very good shot. You sim guys have never played me that i can remember.
I just feel this forum is not helping me setting up this tournament.