Strike Scoring..

[Tudorp15]

This may, or may not have been addressed. If it has, I apologize in advance. But, before it hasn't really bothered me so much, but has become more and more bothersome to me. My favorite game play on line is CTA. But, I also like strike missions and play those when they are started. I noticed this from the start, but only recently started bugging me. Shouldn't a bomb hit you make, be scored to your credit? Apparently it is not this way. I fly a B-17 allot, and of course being in a B-17 I draw much of the enemy fighter attention as I am sure all the B-17 flyers have. Also, depending on the map, some targets are harder to destroy than others, taking more bomb hits to kill. I can not count how many bomb hits I have made, only to get shot down before enough hits to destroy the target. So, I respawn and take off, only to find that another team mate has dropped a single bomb that it took to finish my attack off. I do not have a problem with that person taking that shot, because it accounts for a kill for the team. BUT, my personal scoring shows NO contribution at all, and the single bomb drop from the mate that finished the target off, gets the entire point credit for that target kill. It has been wearing on me since day one, and now enough for me to whine a little about it. Some strike games, I look like a chump at the end looking at the scoring card, when I did allot of damage in the game, and others took the single lethal bomb drop to take the points. Is this going to be fixed? It should be any single bomb that makes a hit and does damage should get some of that score torwards the kill... is this a legitimate gripe? Or am I starting to take this too serious?

[Raw Kryptonite]

If playing with the right people they'll understand.
I wouldn't mind if that score was dropped all together---plane kills as well as targets taken out. Not like it makes much difference. All that matters is the ticket count and a win or loss for the team. Posting individual stats like that takes away from it being a "team" effort and it doesn't change the tickets.
In fact, if I'm bombing the way I like to, I probably won't show any bunkers taken out until the end of the round. I don't like to reduce the number of targets right away, better to spread it out since you don't get extra points for destroying the bunker. By that time, a fighter with small bombs could probably take out the bunkers I've been steadily working over but left standing.

[Tudorp15]

It really hasn't been an issue with the teams, and people I play with. At least I don't think it has... It is more of a personal thing. I am a huge team player, and like it that way. But, I also like to see my own personal stats to see where I need improvement.

But, like you, I tend to switch targets during a single run, spreading my fire out among several targets at once. I target one site, drop a couple bombs, as I pass it, switch to the next target, drop a couple bombs, and so on until I clear the area, then make my turn for a 2nd run. Assuming I make the turn for the second run, and sometimes I do, I will do the same. Sometimes this tactic, however is pretty damn effective for the overall turnout like you mentioned. But, if you make a couple runs using this technique and then get shot down, by the time you return with another load, someone has dropped in, dropped a couple bombs and scored huge for the kills. They look like a hero, even though they might not be all that skillfull. Their stats climb and yours does nothing, even though you may have contributed 90% of that score. Again, I don't have a huge ego as it is concerned with the others, but, it is more a personal acheivement thing with me, and I would like to see what I have contributed, so I can work on my own tactics and improvements. This is all I am saying when it comes to the strike scoring.. It should be fixed IMHO..



If playing with the right people they'll understand.
I wouldn't mind if that score was dropped all together---plane kills as well as targets taken out. Not like it makes much difference. All that matters is the ticket count and a win or loss for the team. Posting individual stats like that takes away from it being a "team" effort and it doesn't change the tickets.
In fact, if I'm bombing the way I like to, I probably won't show any bunkers taken out until the end of the round. I don't like to reduce the number of targets right away, better to spread it out since you don't get extra points for destroying the bunker. By that time, a fighter with small bombs could probably take out the bunkers I've been steadily working over but left standing.

[Raw Kryptonite]

I wonder if this will be in the update? For shooting down planes, I think they mentioned that doing the most damage to another plane will give the shooter a kill, even if that plane crashes, within a certain amount of time. (something like that)

Maybe with bombing the person doing the most bomb damage to the target will get the credit? That would be nice.

[Tudorp15]

I will add though, even though I said I don't have much of an ego, but I guess I do have some of an ego, because when this started bugging me, was a couple weeks ago in a particular strike match. A single opponent whom will remain nameless, because I think he is a freaking punk self absorbed prick, I only thought that because of his reply to a friendly message I sent him. I have to admit, he is a very skilled air to air fighter. But, damn, what fighter with any mildly skilled pilot can't take down a lumbering B-17? He started targeting me specifically. I don't have a problem with that, that is the game, and in a strategic sense, makes sense to take out the heavy bomber. But, this guy was on me like white on rice. I got a few bombs off, and did some damage, but not near as much as I usually do, because of this guy keying on my bomber, and I think was his only mission was to track and keep me in flames. Anyway.. There were several on my team with fighters. I was trying to communicate to my team mates, to stay with me, and keep this prick busy so I can get some decent damage with my bombs. My teamates, whom I did not know any of them because my normal guys I fly with were not on line, simply just flew around. One guy in particular was WAY off course doing who knows what, because he wasn't even near ours, OR their targets.. Just off on his own, flying around enjoying the view I assume. I could not get any of my mates in fighters to work with me... I was on my own, and this jerk just simply took me out quickly. I did get a few bombs off, but not many.

Anyway.. I jokingly sent this guy a message after the match saying "Man, you were killing me. I might have had a chance if I had some back up from my team..".. Nothing personal to him, if anything, giving him props for good kills, and making a point that I would have liked to had some help from my guys.. Anyway, this bone head returns a message stating "You didn't get a single bomb off... You aren't very good... If you want to avoid embarrassment, do not come back..."... His reply was an ass hole comment IMHO, and not warranted.... I did get bombs off, and did "some" damage, but of course, my score card was zero because they were not complete kills.. So, I had no proof that he was wrong about my skills... Anyway.. I didn't reply back,because it is not worth it to get into a battle of witts with a freaking moron like that.. I just avoid him.. he shows up on my list when I place invites, but I always skip over the jerk and he doesn't get any invites to my games... hehheh..

[P-51]

I will add though, even though I said I don't have much of an ego, but I guess I do have some of an ego, because when this started bugging me, was a couple weeks ago in a particular strike match. A single opponent whom will remain nameless, because I think he is a freaking punk self absorbed prick, I only thought that because of his reply to a friendly message I sent him. I have to admit, he is a very skilled air to air fighter. But, damn, what fighter with any mildly skilled pilot can't take down a lumbering B-17? He started targeting me specifically. I don't have a problem with that, that is the game, and in a strategic sense, makes sense to take out the heavy bomber. But, this guy was on me like white on rice. I got a few bombs off, and did some damage, but not near as much as I usually do, because of this guy keying on my bomber, and I think was his only mission was to track and keep me in flames. Anyway.. There were several on my team with fighters. I was trying to communicate to my team mates, to stay with me, and keep this prick busy so I can get some decent damage with my bombs. My teamates, whom I did not know any of them because my normal guys I fly with were not on line, simply just flew around. One guy in particular was WAY off course doing who knows what, because he wasn't even near ours, OR their targets.. Just off on his own, flying around enjoying the view I assume. I could not get any of my mates in fighters to work with me... I was on my own, and this jerk just simply took me out quickly. I did get a few bombs off, but not many.

Anyway.. I jokingly sent this guy a message after the match saying "Man, you were killing me. I might have had a chance if I had some back up from my team..".. Nothing personal to him, if anything, giving him props for good kills, and making a point that I would have liked to had some help from my guys.. Anyway, this bone head returns a message stating "You didn't get a single bomb off... You aren't very good... If you want to avoid embarrassment, do not come back..."... His reply was an ass hole comment IMHO, and not warranted.... I did get bombs off, and did "some" damage, but of course, my score card was zero because they were not complete kills.. So, I had no proof that he was wrong about my skills... Anyway.. I didn't reply back,because it is not worth it to get into a battle of witts with a freaking moron like that.. I just avoid him.. he shows up on my list when I place invites, but I always skip over the jerk and he doesn't get any invites to my games... hehheh..

PM me his name.. (assuming your on a ps3) Me and a few boys (edal, QblackDeathQ etc) well we could hand him his ass and make him look like a noob. Maybe post a video on here and have a jolly good laugh :D

[Tudorp15]

He's on X360....

That would be cool, and thanks for the offer.. lol...

[P-51]

He's on X360....

That would be cool, and thanks for the offer.. lol...

No problem :D im sure some guys on here would like to kik his butt :D

[Tudorp15]

A couple of my regulars whom are pretty good air to air fighters wanted him, but he wasn't seen on line for several days, and it just went by the wayside.. He has shown up in other matches that I was in, but again, I just ignore him... I he has not been in another strike match since with me however..

[Raw Kryptonite]

He's on X360....

That would be cool, and thanks for the offer.. lol...

I'll be happy to join you in negative feedback. It does work eventually.
Your team let you down for sure, but that guy was an ass. I don't blame him for targeting the B-17, that makes sense to go after the heavy hitter. However, we don't need people like that in the game or online in general. Hop on tonight, we'll have Strike going if we get enough people online at 9:30 EST. We've had great games and very good sports in there.

[Tudorp15]

Agreed. I don't have any issue at all with him taking me out. I would too in his shoes.. But, the comment is what pissed me off..

I'll look for you guys on line tonight..

[InfiniteStates]

I agree with the OP - the strike scores should more accurately reflect damage done instead of targets destroyed. It's not an ego thing, it's about more accurate leaderboards and knowing who the genuinely good players are.

And as for that a-hole, join his games and keep TK'ing him. Me, Nephilim, Silvernige and Hrok were all trying to get some quality 4v4 CTA games in with us all on the same side. But some idiot keeps trying to join whatever team we set, making it 5v3. So we tried every trick in the book, switching to the same team at the last second etc. After a few games of being fooled by that, the idiot soon caught on.

So there we are in a 5v3 and we all decided that the best course of action was military justice. That was one of the best CTA games I've ever had lol. Plus, it's really good training for simulation, tracking a target without a marker arrow ;)

[Tudorp15]

That I do not like.. I dont mind flying with anyone at all, but when may regular flying buddies are on, we do form a "Team" because we fly well together, interact, and each player has their roll and contribution to the team effort, so we like to fly as a team. When we all get together, we do have a rep for not loosing much, so other players try to jump to our team at the last second to end up in a warped battle of say 8 on 2 etc. If I host a game, and that ends up like that, I will dump the game and start over. I hate that, I like as fair of a fight as I can get. Actually, I even like warped games that put me at a disadvantage, because I like the challenge. I prime example of that, and yeah, I am gonna brag because I am proud of myself in a game last night. It was a warped game anyway, with 3 on 2. I was on the 2 player side. No problem, but it was a 2 field game, and that really is tough with such low player count anyway. You have to spread out really thin. Well, my team mate apparently felt overwhelmed and bails on the game early, and left me by myself to cover two air fields for over 10 minutes. Of course, I got my arse whooped, but I stayed with the game to the end, and fought my butt off to the end. I lost, but my personal score was almost double of their highest scorer. I did get landed and took the field several times, and a handful of kills. I just zoomed from field to field flying just feet from the ground at below tree top level, and they couldn't see me very well.. I would scream in, take a landing, and by the time they figured out where I was, they either at least lost the field, if not me taking it completley. I would do the same thing sneaking up on them and doo dooing on them with my little turd bombs.. It was really fun, even though I lost... But, left that game as though I won anyway.. hahhah...

[InfiniteStates]

...I am gonna brag because I am proud of myself in a game last night. It was a warped game anyway, with 3 on 2....
While we're here... ;)

I had a host quit on me when he was against me 2v1 lol. Guess he didn't learn about tail gunners...

[Robotic Pope]

I had some more great games tonight with Tudorp15 and his crew. But damn I was disapointed I got booted off xbox live just as we were about to take off for some formation flying. Had my Mustang mkIA all lined up perfectly on the runway with Turdorp15's P-51D when BOOM disconected from xbox live. Sounded like a lot of fun from what I heard in the party chat. That Gooch is a nutbar huh lol.

Anyway send me a pm or xbox message and give me that guy's name and I'll make sure I avoid joining the games he hosts.

Oh and about strike mode. Has anybody else noticed that sometimes the targets get mixed up somehow, so that you can be bombing your enemy's targets and at the same time taking tickets off your own side because the game thinks they are friendy. You can see this by the target counts they don't add up. One game a few weeks back I had in sim mode with House, We had destroyed ALL our targets and were still LOSING in tickets???!! As it was unlimited time, We had to wait while the enemy bombed their targets which the game thought were ours, taking their own tickets away and finaly giving us the win. It was crazy.

[Tudorp15]

I haven't noticed that issue. But, that is not a good one either... maybe worse than my complaint..

Yeah, Gooch is a little "loud", hahhah... He is a 17 year old kid, and a pretty cool kid, but again, a freaking kid, and can be annoying sometimes, hahhah... But, he means well, but runs his mouth way too damn much and irritates people sometimes.. I tease him allot too though to keep him in check, hehheh...

When we get together again with that and you are on line, I will call ya in. It is fun, and adds a different type of challenge to the game....



I had some more great games tonight with Tudorp15 and his crew. But damn I was disapointed I got booted off xbox live just as we were about to take off for some formation flying. Had my Mustang mkIA all lined up perfectly on the runway with Turdorp15's P-51D when BOOM disconected from xbox live. Sounded like a lot of fun from what I heard in the party chat. That Gooch is a nutbar huh lol.

Anyway send me a pm or xbox message and give me that guy's name and I'll make sure I avoid joining the games he hosts.

Oh and about strike mode. Has anybody else noticed that sometimes the targets get mixed up somehow, so that you can be bombing your enemy's targets and at the same time taking tickets off your own side because the game thinks they are friendy. You can see this by the target counts they don't add up. One game a few weeks back I had in sim mode with House, We had destroyed ALL our targets and were still LOSING in tickets???!! As it was unlimited time, We had to wait while the enemy bombed their targets which the game thought were ours, taking their own tickets away and finaly giving us the win. It was crazy.

[FOZ_1983]

hahaha gooch, yeah i had him in a few games with tudorp to. Had to turn my mic down a couple of time lol. Seems like a good kid though, just loud :D

We can get some games in later if you want? try the formation flying? anyone got anything to get pics with?

Also...tudorp... i like flying the B17, but im also at home in the escort role. You need a "little friend" to get you to the target then send me an invite mate, i'll jump in.

[Tudorp15]

I will do that.. It seems I have been having a hard time lately in the B-17. I get "gang banged" allot lately, and rarely even get a bomb off the rack. In stead of getting mad, I laugh though, because I take that as a compliment, that I am seen as a "threat" as much to get so much attention, hahhah.. I am finding the same in CTA lately too, that there are a couple that do nothing but keep me at bay, hahhah... I guess it is a good thing to be feared in something since I tend to be nothing more than a target drone in dog fights, hahhah..

I will definatly call on ya to have my back though if I catch you on line in a strike..

hahaha gooch, yeah i had him in a few games with tudorp to. Had to turn my mic down a couple of time lol. Seems like a good kid though, just loud :D

We can get some games in later if you want? try the formation flying? anyone got anything to get pics with?

Also...tudorp... i like flying the B17, but im also at home in the escort role. You need a "little friend" to get you to the target then send me an invite mate, i'll jump in.

[FOZ_1983]

i'll more than likely be on operation flashpoint, just need to complete the last level on hardcore. But regardless of what game im playing, just drop me an invite to party....

If i join... you have a wingman and a little friend watching out for you. If i dont join... im not being rude, im just still in game with mates. I do want to play IL2 at some point tonight though, its been fun, i love the game. If we play some strike to, en route to target i'll form up on your wing with my fighter ;) make it look good lol.