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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-28-2012, 04:33 AM
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I can sympathise. Maybe one day clod will get a career or single player equivalent of its own. For now the RoF CareerB is all there is for offliners like us.
How was that ROF SP play or career mode at it's 1 year release mark?

Oh wait, it didn't have one..

If you're going to compare something, especially software at least try to compare it around the same timeframes. ROF is plagued with problems and it's 3 years after it's release.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:49 AM
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How was that ROF SP play or career mode at it's 1 year release mark?

Oh wait, it didn't have one..

If you're going to compare something, especially software at least try to compare it around the same timeframes. ROF is plagued with problems and it's 3 years after it's release.
Quite right. I was thinking more in the future for Cliffs of Dover and a single player system. I understand what you mean about RoF though. I don't do MP much at all, but I gather there are some big restrictions with net code and objects etc. I hope they can fix that sort of thing on the future, as the object limitations impact on SP too.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:00 AM
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I see. I hadn't considered that frequent updates and addons were a form of blackmail.
If there is a patch to be downloaded in ROF you cannot click on play off line. If you do you get a friendly message telling you to down load the patch and you have the choice of downloading the patch or writing off the massive investment made in the sim. It wasn't all ways worthless (freely downloadable), I think I paid about $80AUD plus the planes I've bought. I can't even install a playable copy of the game from the DVD I purchased. To me that's a form of blackmail. If I don't do what they tell me there is significant cost.

Why won't they let me play the game I've bought?

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If I may ask, how do you feel about the hidden cost of getting into your car to drive to a shop when you want to purchase something?
Hidden costs? I don't think there are any? I service my own vehicles, pay my licence, the rego, insurance, fuel and other consumables, pay my taxes, part of which go to maintenance and development of the required infrastructure . I even offset my carbon emission through solar power at home.

I pay them all for the privilege of driving my oily old car that should have been scrapped twenty years ago, because I am, in essence, a motor head!

Still, when I go and buy something I do factor in the time and cost of going to get it into the price. Doesn't everyone?

Back to the update. Since the beta and hotfix my performance has been really good. I wonder what the other graphics and performance improvements will be?
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:07 AM
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I don't pretend to know as much as a lot of self proclaimed genius' on here- but I can speak for myself. I've bought a few flight sims and none have been plagued with such bad juju as CloD. Never have I seen so much ignorance with fanboys and haters alike.

I had high hopes for this sim. And the eye candy is purty. But if other flight sims run better than CloD, even right out the gate than this sim with over a year of extra work... I'm gonna choose the sim that works. And if this is how they run the business, whether I liked previous products or not, they'll have to earn my cash for their next installment. And I will remember how CloD turned out.

But for now, I'll keep flying IL2 modded, FSX, A2A and DCS products. (Games and companies that got their product right or fixed it relatively quickly) and when BOM comes out, the reviews had better be out of the ballpark before I'll sniff at it... And I hate to spend money on products that don't run well and companies that have lost my trust. Not saying they can't turn it around and make a good sim, but the odds are stacked against them now... It's nothing personal, its just business.

But I haven't lost hope. The fact that I still check these forums shows that I still have hope to fly the sim I paid for, but with the bugs and stutters and wasted time feel as though I've been made a fool. Here's to hope! And I want 1C to prove me dead wrong!

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