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Old 10-24-2015, 02:59 PM
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Depending on the situation and the plane, limited rearming and refueling wouldn't be unrealistic...
Good post, Pursuivant. Nice example of systematic approach.
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Old 10-24-2015, 03:03 PM
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AI pilot can't see you in clouds
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Old 10-24-2015, 06:10 PM
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AI pilot can't see you in clouds
Can you expound on this a little?
I'm not being difficult, I promise; but how is it accomplished?

Clouds are static objects in the map; and is this based upon weather?

Is occlusion modeled in the AI now?

I've entered a VERY thick mass of clouds and each time pick a random direction, or I split-S or a lazy-eight, etc. They never fail to "stay on me."

Do they simply stay on you and not SHOOT?

That's not really the same thing as literally "loosing sight of me."
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Old 10-24-2015, 06:13 PM
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There is a simple way of finding out that AI can see you or not in clouds: Use the game's best turning plane, the I-153, and fly circles inside a cloud, (easily done) and see how AI reacts.
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Old 10-24-2015, 07:51 PM
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Can you expound on this a little?
I'm not being difficult, I promise; but how is it accomplished?
I'd be interested to know more about this, too. Again, not to be difficult, but to know exactly how the game works.

Three "Yes/No" questions for Sita or some other member of TD:

1) Is "invisibility" within clouds affected by lighting conditions? (That is, is it easier to hide in a cloud in dim light or darkness?)

2) Is "invisibility" within a cloud a binary state ("detectable" or "not detectable" if you have a certain amount of cloud cover around you) or is there an algorithm which makes the plane more or less detectable based on how much cloud cover there is between it and the AI observer?

3) Does AI instantly regain situational awareness of your position once you leave the cloud?
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:40 PM
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Same way you can sneak up on there 6 low. I noticed the AI break off when I
enter a cloud and then they search. Try 1 vs 1 perhaps
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Old 10-25-2015, 08:57 PM
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Last edited by KG26_Alpha; 10-25-2015 at 10:03 PM. Reason: Remove the https:// in youtube links please :)
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:47 PM
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Can you expound on this a little?
I'm not being difficult, I promise; but how is it accomplished?

Clouds are static objects in the map; and is this based upon weather?

Is occlusion modeled in the AI now?

I've entered a VERY thick mass of clouds and each time pick a random direction, or I split-S or a lazy-eight, etc. They never fail to "stay on me."

Do they simply stay on you and not SHOOT?

That's not really the same thing as literally "loosing sight of me."
Are you 100% positive that not even the tiniest speck of your plane was visible to the AI - they still got bird of prey eyes when they have acquired you as a target? And are you outside of their ca. 5 km sight radius when you leave the clouds again? I am not sure, but I think AI is able to immediatley reacquire you as a target when you only temporarily disappear from sight.
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Old 10-31-2015, 05:47 PM
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Thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-01-2015, 12:28 PM
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for that case if not everybody seen it

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...2&postcount=25
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