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11-06-2009, 01:24 PM
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It took me about 2 weeks before I had my CH hotas setup properly for what I wanted it to do in IL2. No, it wasn't about being difficult it was about where I what buttons I wanted to do certain things.
The CH control manager is an awesome tool, allowing me to program all kinds of applicatons... including development tools on my MFP programmable keyboard. It is not just a gamer tool. I simply load the profile for Il2, or BOB II WOV, or Jane's F/A-18 with a few clicks and as long as I still have a good recall for the programmed buttons I'm enjoying the sim. I don't have to mess with the keyboard for the most part or remember commands. Example.. I wanted proppitch on the stick at the top left, next to the top right button. The top right button was for Elevator and rudder trip (4 way pov switch). There are exceptional tools for setting up the CH hotas wherein after I set up the commands per the respective keys I can printout a picture of the stick with the commands clearly tagged. This helps a great deal after you program the hotas. I simply set the printout to the side and review it as a I use the hotas. It is a quantum leap to learning complex button arrangements I have programmed into the hotas. There are other exceptional tools as well that have been developed over the years. In other words it tooks some time to work through the way I wanted things to be. A new hotas would require alot of new programming and other stuff for the number of sims I have setup now. I'm not lazy or anything like that, but it does take time to get a feel for changes in the hotas. Spending $300 when everything is working so well. It doesn't make a lot of sense for me... in my situation. If you that are proponents of the Logitech hotas are talking the same a year from now I'd say your admiration may have merit. Can you accept that, without thinking it's bashing you for your choice of Logitech? It is fair to let others know that all that glitters may not be gold, and that is the crux of what I've tried to say. Not trying to alienate or insult anyone. Just a difference of opinion at this point in time. If the Logitech works out and is a stable platform, it won't matter if I agree or disagree. The proof will be in performance and longevity. Pax 
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#52
11-06-2009, 01:45 PM
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There's a simple reasoning to support CH: most IL-2 aces use it
 Nothing simpler nearmiss and no need to explain a lot 
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11-06-2009, 02:14 PM
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By the way, I'm not talking about the CH rudders, which I haven't used.
I use Hoffman's (R.I.P.) Simped, which are just the best I ever used. And adding to some previous posts, I did try the G940 and it seemed..."cheap" for my taste. But still a good option for the average simmer. In general, we're not all looking for the same things. I look for precision and quality. Other look for many buttons, others for FFB and other for lots of lights. There are HOTAS and sticks for every taste in the market 
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11-07-2009, 12:31 AM
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Well I’m going to put my views on the table here. Don't take this as product/personal bashing as it's not.
I've been using it now for about 14 hours and cannot fault it; I've found it to more of an enjoyable experience than my MSFFB and X52. Re: the comments about it feeling "cheap", I cannot for the life of me understand that, it doesn't feel cheap at all. It's extremely solid and when running through the calibration routines for the FFB effects I thought I was going to injure myself at one point as some of the effects are really strong. In terms or programmability, any function in a sim (I’m using IL-2 & FSX) can be mapped to the HOTAS, I've actually found the Profiling software much easier to use than Saitek's which to me is saying something. The profiler also has FSX / IL-2 key map pre-loaded so it’s as simple assigning a sim function to a button or rotary and you’re done, I spent at the most about 1/2 hour setting it up for IL-2. As with the X52 software I rejoiced in that fact that you can also map "Zones" or "Axis" to rotary's e.g. I have all the FOVs mapped to the throttle R1 rotary. All the FFB effects can be adjusted from 0% to 150% (150% will shake the desk ), you can also adjust the spring tension and dampening along the same scales. This has been great for tweaking as I have noticed a huge difference in the way the FFB effects work b/n sims, but that is the sims themselves not the stick. You can also set a spring tension for sims that don’t have FFB built in. My only gripe is that FFB settings can only be set globally; you can't set specific FFB settings for individual sims.In terms of standing the test of time, yes I agree with many here about that, time will tell, but the same can be said about any new piece of kit. If the G940 is built to the same standard as their FFB racing wheels then I'm not worried. My brother in law has had his FFB Momo Racing Wheel for over 6 years now and it's still running the as good as when it first came out of the box. Yes products do have faults, and there is a given 1% failure rate for most massed produced products, but so far I have had no issues. I'm happy to say that as of right now, after getting it home and setting up, I haven’t ended up with that disappointment feeling like I did with the X52. For me the G940 works and it works well.
Last edited by Codex; 11-07-2009 at 12:35 AM.
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11-19-2009, 06:14 PM
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Just bought this G940 setup and have installed it without problem.
It's a completely different setup then my old X52 and CH Pedals. Will take some time to get used to The pedals seems a wee bit softer than the CH ditto.
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11-19-2009, 10:57 PM
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The pedals are adjustable. The knob in the center of the rudders controls the tension. Same for Throttle (underneath) tension ect .....
I prefer some extra tension in the rudder myself and have them set pretty tight. I found CH to be a sloppy mess in comparison to the logitechs. ** There is new software on the way which will greatly enhanced scripting ect .....
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