4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[Tuco22]

Very cool, thanks for the update.

[Aviar]

Originally Posted by FC99

Change is global but it affects each plane in unique way so we actually have to change/add high speed FM parameters for each plane.

In that case.....Salute!

Aviar

[RegRag1977]

Hello TD,

Thanks for the update, wow this again is a lot of work that you did to improve IL2.

Thank you so much guys !

[Fighterace]

You guys are on a roll...Dont stop, whatever you do

[felix_the_fat]

Beautiful new work on those flight models, TD
- especially increased drag at high mach number.
So -if each plane is affected individually by these changes, will the P40 start to roll to the left* in a high speed dive? - to the extent that I break my rudder pedals, around 500mph??!! I hope so!
[*or is it the right?] You guys are the greatest. I love this sim !

[1984]

interesting, and nice to see "TsAGI - samoletostroenye v SSSR 1917- 1945, part 2, 1994" in sources...

[ElAurens]

Thanks for the new update.

[Bouma004]

My question is simple.

Will the changes of physic model in 4.12 correct the bug apears in FW190s flight model in 4.11.1m.
this plane is praticaly impossible to slow and land even flaps and gears depolyed !

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my sugestion to correct this in BMW_800_Series EMD:

PropAnglerMinParam 700 (4.11.1m)------->1700(4.10.1m)
PropAnglerMaxParam 2700
PropAnglerAfterburnerParam 2700
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It costs nothing to make the test.

I am on of your greatest fan DT, thanks for all and never stop.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by felix_the_fat

Beautiful new work on those flight models, TD
- especially increased drag at high mach number.
So -if each plane is affected individually by these changes, will the P40 start to roll to the left* in a high speed dive? - to the extent that I break my rudder pedals, around 500mph??!! I hope so!
[*or is it the right?] You guys are the greatest. I love this sim !

No, it just adds Mach related drag for each plane based on the planes properties. The handling issue for the P-40, or handling issues in general, would need to be done within individual flight models, but the code does not support modeling this kind of behavior. New code would be needed, which has not been done.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by Bouma004

My question is simple.

Will the changes of physic model in 4.12 correct the bug apears in FW190s flight model in 4.11.1m.
this plane is praticaly impossible to slow and land even flaps and gears depolyed !

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
my sugestion to correct this in BMW_800_Series EMD:

PropAnglerMinParam 700 (4.11.1m)------->1700(4.10.1m)
PropAnglerMaxParam 2700
PropAnglerAfterburnerParam 2700
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is not a bug in the first place, this is the correct behavior. Historically the lower limit of the rpm was around 600, iIrc, so 1700 is way out of line, and if you use historical landing procedures you'll have no problem at all to touch the plane down.