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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-29-2012, 04:56 PM
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Just fix this bugged and unfinished engine and call this the way 1C want.

Simples as that.
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:57 AM
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Just fix this bugged and unfinished engine and call this the way 1C want.

Simples as that.
This is going to knock you over, Lobi... but I totally agree


With every iteration of the original il2 series, came further advancements and capability.


For those whow would... please don't start the hassling for the "get the new product out asap/ I would pay whatever to see it here". Don't bring those pressures to bear - look what happened last time.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:27 AM
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My guess is that they are working flat out on the BOM and have a hampster in a little cage working on CLOD.
They need an income and the only way to get it is to have another product that will hopefully get great reviews and sell well thus saving the company.

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Old 08-30-2012, 12:59 PM
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My guess is that they are working flat out on the BOM and have a hampster in a little cage working on CLOD.
They need an income and the only way to get it is to have another product that will hopefully get great reviews and sell well thus saving the company.

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I agree. This is precisely what is happening. They made a mistake and are now trying to repair that mistake.
They have to get money to make the game so they make a new add on to get it and fix the old problems along with it. I think it's going to be just fine. Even for the CloD. You act here like the game is the shittiest peace of grab ever and that is not true. Planes are flyable and I'm flying almost every day on ATAG server. True everything is not perfect but so what? Give an example of a better WW2 flight simulator than this.

Looking at the comments on this forum makes it feel like the game would be not even playable witch is just not true, so stop whining because it's not exactly what you wanted.
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:14 PM
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My guess is that they are working flat out on the BOM and have a hampster in a little cage working on CLOD.
They need an income and the only way to get it is to have another product that will hopefully get great reviews and sell well thus saving the company.

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The problem is not COD, the problem is the game engine. Changing the name of the sim, map, and aircraft isn't going to make anything better. They are not going to build a new game engine, as that would take years. If they were building a new game engine they certainly wouldn't be allocating resources to patch the existing game engine. They must fix the existing game engine. No one is going to buy a Sequel or MMO unless the game engine is fixed. A fixed game engine means a fixed COD, and a Sequel/MMO that they will be able to sell. This latest patch is critical, if they can't stabilize and fix the performance for average computers there will be no point in fixing all the other issues. This is probably one of the reasons they delayed the announcement until they're sure the performance issues are fixed, and they can move forward.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:08 PM
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I think the reputation of CloD is now so poisonous that it would be better for 1C to put as much distance between BoM and CloD as possible. A simple statement that CloD is finished would probably be for the best, accompanied by a radically different branding for BoM. The current state of play is not doing 1C's reputation any good at all and a clean break would at least give them a chance to put it behind them as a noble failure and move on to something more worthwhile. A clean break might also give them the chance to make any necessary personnel changes.

If they were going to go with a whole new game engine then sure, but if they are going to use the core of CloD on a sequel it would be IMHO irresponsible to fix things in the sequel and not patch CloD as well, even if its after the release of the sequel, now I am not talking about playability issues, those MUST be fixed before the sequel, but things like net code, additions like weather... they should all be added to CloD if they are made to work in the sequel as well... abandoning CloD and pretending it doesnt exist would only leave the devs with a very deep scar that would follow them for years to come...

Of course now we drift off topic, and we should be focused on getting CloD to the level it needs to be to move forward...
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:21 PM
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I think the reputation of CloD is now so poisonous that it would be better for 1C to put as much distance between BoM and CloD as possible. A simple statement that CloD is finished would probably be for the best, accompanied by a radically different branding for BoM. The current state of play is not doing 1C's reputation any good at all and a clean break would at least give them a chance to put it behind them as a noble failure and move on to something more worthwhile. A clean break might also give them the chance to make any necessary personnel changes.
Personally I think most people understand the difficulties of the development and would hold no grudge if COD were fixed either thru patches until the Sequel is released, and most importantly that COD were merge-able with future Sequels so COD would benefit from any advancements in AI, Commands, FM, DM, Weather/Clouds, new features, optimizations, etc.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:36 PM
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Personally I think most people understand the difficulties of the development and would hold no grudge if COD were fixed either thru patches until the Sequel is released, and most importantly that COD were merge-able with future Sequels so COD would benefit from any advancements in AI, Commands, FM, DM, Weather/Clouds, new features, optimizations, etc.

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I think the reputation of CloD is now so poisonous that it would be better for 1C to put as much distance between BoM and CloD as possible. A simple statement that CloD is finished would probably be for the best, accompanied by a radically different branding for BoM. The current state of play is not doing 1C's reputation any good at all and a clean break would at least give them a chance to put it behind them as a noble failure and move on to something more worthwhile. A clean break might also give them the chance to make any necessary personnel changes.
Bravo!

I couldn't say it better.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:15 PM
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i juste hope this time when the sequel will be release we will pay a real sim and not a beta like cliffs of dover was.

hope that it will be the last time we have to pay 2 times a game to have a release version of it.

hope that my trust in CLOD won't be betray.

now i really like to have some news from the dev about something (even a picture of new color cow.) because we are already so frustrated to let us in the cloud of info.
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