Very short development update

[Boogz]

Originally Posted by luthier

yes, we're alive. Me especially. I rarely feel more alive than after a morning reading of the forums!

The sound is progressing well.

lol irl!

:-d

Originally Posted by luthier

Yes, we're alive. Me especially. I rarely feel more alive than after a morning reading of the forums!

The sound is progressing well.

General mood:

" The sound is progressing well "... As for the FM , we should be ready for Italy's release. The DM should be good for Madagascar's release soon to be announced. Clouds will be implemented in time for Iceland's pre-Alpha testers in first quarter on 2012. So everything is going well !


Salute !

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by robtek

And a good devs <-> customer relation is a "nice to have" but in no way mandatory.

Well then this is the one and only kind of Business in which customer relations are not mandatory.
We will see how long this kind of business behavior will work, because it's not the Customers Problem to keep them in business!
I don't pay money to keep someone in business, i pay money for a Product, the only thing which is keeping companies in business is their Product, from which company this product has been produced, i don't care at all. If there is a WW2 Flight sim from 1c or 3a or XYZ-Tralalla Ltd, i don't care at all.

Otherwise i don't really care if there is any kind of Communication from Luthier, he should do his work and release some patches.
If he does, that's good, if not then not.

[robtek]

Kongo-Otto,

please read what i did write! Customer <->DEVs!
Not as you assumed wrongly Customer <-> Publisher!
As in devs -> developing; publisher -> sales, marketing and PR

[esmiol]

but seriously... when are they give us a real info?

sincerely i like to have an approximate date for the next patch... know what are the real status of their work..

this lack of communication is really not a good thing. and the most optimistic like me begin to really be tired of this leak of info. and worse of all losing hope!

we don't even know when sdk will come... please luthier... give us real info next time! and sincerely this kind of humor with this video could be fun with infos... but give us this thing after weeks of silence...

if you want to give us smile on our face... give us good news and not stupid joke like this!

it is a shame when game was still in developement you were giving us more infos than now! you maybe should drink less and flirting less with chicks during cevellopement and work more like you do now... maybe you could give us more info now and less before!

[robtek]

People under pressure usually deliver less than perfect results.

So, Luthier avoids additional artificial pressure resulting from time-lines.

Perfectly understandable, imo.

[esmiol]

well... i really like to be so optimistic than you

but they can said if per example... IA will be partially fix for the next patch...(per ex command of wingmans)

and sincerely... they never been really under pression with the timeline during devellopement or other patch!

and they should know that it is better to give an hyppothetical date for a patch release than giving nothing!

that would help community to wait even if they pospone the release of the patch later.

i'm affraid to be without any info (no release date, no info on work about sound, IA, bug, optimisation, etc) the community begin to be tired and let COD as dead!

but i will try to stay optimistic!

[Robert]

Originally Posted by esmiol

but seriously... when are they give us a real info?

sincerely i like to have an approximate date for the next patch... know what are the real status of their work..

this lack of communication is really not a good thing. and the most optimistic like me begin to really be tired of this leak of info. and worse of all losing hope!

we don't even know when sdk will come... please luthier... give us real info next time! and sincerely this kind of humor with this video could be fun with infos... but give us this thing after weeks of silence...

if you want to give us smile on our face... give us good news and not stupid joke like this!

it is a shame when game was still in developement you were giving us more infos than now! you maybe should drink less and flirting less with chicks during cevellopement and work more like you do now... maybe you could give us more info now and less before!

Read Luthier's June 3rd post. He outlines what's going on. In the first paragraph he lists what's being worked on in the patch and that was released June 24th. The sound and a few other issues like SDK from the second paragraph will take a few months (2-3?). THAT'S a progress report. One part of that update was completed by the release of the patch. The rest is being worked on and when appropriate advances have been made we'll get pertinent info.

It's not Gibberish folks. It's plain English.

All the other stuff people are waiting for is window dressing compared to these foundational problems. When those are fixed we'll get more progress updates depicting where they are in fixing AI, load outs.... etc. etc. etc.


But don't let a good opportunity to take a swipe at the developers go to waste.

[6S.Tamat]

sorry robert, but if you say that a progress report is the one of the firsts days of june, you are saying that there is not progress until now from that date.
Not difficult reasoning: simple plain logic.

Said that, we can say whatever we wants, that does not modify that there is not a patch and there is not communication.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

sorry robert, but if you say that a progress report is the one of the firsts days of june, you are saying that there is not progress until now from that date.
Not difficult reasoning: simple plain logic.

Said that, we can say whatever we wants, that does not modify that there is not a patch and there is not communication.

Probably what there is to communicate regarding the progress of the sound (for example) wouldn't make for an interesting or more importantly an informative update. But he did say in this very post that the sound is coming along.

Say a family member is having surgery. Yes you get progress reports. But the liaison isn't going to inform you of when every stitch is being applied. When the surgical progress reaches certain milestones the liaison will inform family members of what's going on.

What it seems some of you want is this:

We just wheeled Robert into the operating room.
He's undressed.
We sterilized the incision area.
He's put under and is experiencing no issues regarding anesthesia.
We set him up on an intebator.
He's breathing fine
The surgeon has arrived.
They made the first incision.
We cut the sternum.
The splitters have separated the chest to allow access to the heart.
Robert is placed on a machine to pump his heart for him.
The nurse applied the first bag of blood for transfusion.
The ready nurse is preparing heart patches and valves.
Robert's vitals are good.
We're now cutting into the heart.
The old valve is removed.
He's bleeding heavily so we applied another bag of blood.
His pressure is low.
More blood.
It looks like he's coming out of anesthesia.
More anesthesia.
A problem arose causing an unsterilized instrument. We need to back up, clean the area and continue.
The area of the heart requiring a new patch is prepared.
The new valve and patch are prepared.
The attending nurse gives the patch to the surgeon.
The surgeon asks for appropriate sutures an needles.
He sews patch.
More blood.
The nurse gives new valve to surgeon.
Surgeon asks for sutures and needle.
...
...
...
...

We just wheeled him up to the recovery room.
You can see him in about a half hour.





Do you get my point? A liaison would only report on the pertinent aspects of the surgery. The rest would be a waist of time or be of such useless information as to just add to the overall stress of the whole procedure for the family and staff. Out of all the hundreds of things that happen in a surgery a liaison will only report two to three times - barring unforeseen issues.

You'd get:

1)Robert's under anethesia and responding fine.
The surgeon has arrived and we're ready to start in 5 minutes.

2)The valve and patch have been inserted.
He's responding well to the new improvements.
We did have to use more blood than we thought.

3)The finishing nurse is sewing Robert up.
The surgeon will be out in about five minutes to inform you.
You cn see Robert in about half hour.

Why would this be any different for a patch and development communication if the posts would be filled with useless minutia?

No insult intended. I just don't get it when the road map (as small as it is) clearly points to where they are going - whether that road map was given 2 months ago or three days ago. To me that's communication. I don't feel out of the loop. I don't feel neglected. I don't feel it necessary to tell me about things that don't matter to me or I wouldn't understand.