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Old 06-13-2012, 05:50 AM
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The DGen\Singapore2Planes.dat file completely replaces AllPlanes.dat file data for this under campaigns and should include data on all planes from section [Planes] of the Singapore2.DB file. In this case the mistake with search of PBN1 won't be.
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Old 06-13-2012, 02:27 PM
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This is interesting! How many other campaigns have to have special dat file that is not there? And why is it not there? ( Please don't feel this is a mean or angry post, this is not the intention, only asking questions. ) It is very easy to misunderstand posts and think you are being attacked. But all of us need you to do what you are doing.

What is the proper format for the Singapore2Planes.dat file? Is it the same as an old planes###.dat file?? This information does not seem to be in the readme file you included with the download zip file.

Not trying to jump your a## or anything, all of us in the community are really glad you are doing this!! So don't get me wrong, I'd almost pay you to do this work. It's is just that we will need more information about special requirements such as this that make editing and changing/modding things apparently more difficult, complex and convoluted than working with the old Dgen.

You possibly didn't know that many of us are old hats at modifying and editing the old Dgen files to make things more interesting. Or to allow us to add more aircraft or whatever. I was one of the old Dgen modders from long ago at SimHQ. For example when some of the Italian planes came out, to fly newly added Italian planes in the Belgorod campaign, there was no way to fly on the other side ( Russian ) against the new Italian planes. So I created a new campaign to allow this. I showed other people how to do it, including Enjoyr and others and that inspired a lot of other people modding and creating new content for Dgen. But I certainly was not the first to do this sort of thing, but I was in it early. We got much information from Starshoy when he was posting at SimHQ.

The ability to be able to do absolutely everything with the new Dgen that you could do with the old one is critical. We just need mistakes and limitations fixed and then ability to do even more than we used to. And we will need more info on special dat files and which campaigns to apply them to. I am already trying to modify ( like always ) this new Dgen you are making as you can see by my earlier post. I created that new Sinpapore2Planes.dat file, now I will put the other planes like you said in it. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Old 06-13-2012, 07:34 PM
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What azura means is if the campaign does not have specific xxxxPlanes.dat file DGen automatically references the AllPlanes.dat for the information it requires.

If you create a xxxxPlanes.dat for your campaign, you MUST ensure that ALL planes that appear in the xxxx.db file have corresponding entries in there; because that is where it will look, it will now ignore the AllPlanes.dat - if they are missing that's when the errors occur.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:39 PM
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Thank you, you guys are nice and try to help us. we all must try to help each other. I try to help you by pointing out these things. My replies may seem terse and unfriendly but that's just the way I write and I feel I must ask a lot of question, so don't be annoyed.

Anyway, getting back to the original problem. What must be the format of the newly created Singapore2Planes.dat?? I tried the exact same format as the AllPlanes.dat. Does it have to have the same planes exactly as the appear in the .DB file?? The .DB file
shows a number of planes your side or enemy side has in supply. My Singapore2.DB has section like this:

[Planes]
10 PBN1
10 F2A_B339 UK_B-339_SP.bmp
10 HurricaneMkIIb
10 BLENHEIM4 blenheim_Singapore.bmp
10 C_47
10 H8K1
10 G4M1_11
20 KI_21_I
20 KI_21_II
10 A6M2_21
10 KI_43_IB
10 KI_43_IC
10 KI_46_RECCE
10 L2D

How should this Singapore2Planes.dat file look like exactly? Should it go in the Dgen folder or under the new Mod folder under Dgen??

I still need exacting information on exactly what the format should be, do the planes have to be in the same order as DB?

Do only the planes that are in the DB get put in the new file have to appear and no other ones?

I have kept trying, tried the old PlanesDU1.dat file format and one that looks like the AllPlanes.dat format. Still get message of PBN1 not being found. I have the new file in both Dgen and mod underneath Dgen since it should not hurt if extra file appears but is not needed.

I need exact information. not trying to be a pain, post an example of what I need to have in the new dat file.

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Old 06-13-2012, 09:44 PM
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I also tried copying a AllPlanes.dat file ( with every plane in the game in there, including the PBN1 ) and naming it Singapore2Planes.dat. Put this in both Dgen and mod folder under Dgen folder. Still get same error saying PBN1 is not there. If I'm using a Singapore2Planes.dat with all planes in the game in there, then why is it not working? I think this new Dgen still has a few bugs?

= DGen_mod 1.0.0.7 (16/05/2012) =
seed: 12977312
ParamStr: du 0
DGen_mod initialization. Side: du, Rank: 0
RandomFlights=2
MaxFLAK=10
MaxBomberSkill=0
Distance=Any
Length=VeryLong
AI=Normal
Missions=Normal
AirIntensity=Medium
GroundIntensity=Medium
SlowFire=1.0
PromotionRate=0.10
Career ID: Du1
Load DGen\Singapore2Planes.dat:
Singapore:Singapore
Inherits Singapore
Load DGen\mod\SingaporeTowns.dat:
EnemyNation from stock: Japan
ReadDB sorties:1
Load DGen\mod\AllWing.dat:
TestWing(f,s): 119SquadronNEI 0 00
Cannot find plane PBN1

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Old 06-13-2012, 09:59 PM
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I noticed that the last two lines of the error talk about the squadron and the plane both. Maybe the new Dgen has something that associates a given squadron ( in this case 119SquadronNEI ) with certain plane types and this squadron does not have PBN1 flying in the squadron? The old Dgen did not care about what planes were in a squadron. They were separate things. I'm just guessing, not sure.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:02 AM
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This is interesting! How many other campaigns have to have special dat file that is not there? And why is it not there? ( Please don't feel this is a mean or angry post, this is not the intention, only asking questions. ) It is very easy to misunderstand posts and think you are being attacked. But all of us need you to do what you are doing.
No problem! With pleasure I will answer all questions.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:17 AM
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Anyway, getting back to the original problem. What must be the format of the newly created Singapore2Planes.dat??
The AllPlanes.dat file differs from Singapore2Planes.dat only divider type:

AllPlanes.dat - semicolon (; )
Singapore2Planes.dat - gap or tabulation

Other fields completely coincide.

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Should it go in the Dgen folder or under the new Mod folder under Dgen??
All files of campaigns take place in the DGen folder. It is not necessary to use folder \DGen\MOD at all - it mine! (services).

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Do only the planes that are in the DB get put in the new file have to appear and no other ones?
Yes. The Singapore2Planes.dat file will be used only in one under campaigns and to turn on there superfluous planes it is no point.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:20 AM
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I also tried copying a AllPlanes.dat file ( with every plane in the game in there, including the PBN1 ) and naming it Singapore2Planes.dat. Put this in both Dgen and mod folder under Dgen folder. Still get same error saying PBN1 is not there. If I'm using a Singapore2Planes.dat with all planes in the game in there, then why is it not working? I think this new Dgen still has a few bugs?
Mistakes certainly are still possible, but in your message speech not about it. It is just necessary to complete Singapore2Planes.dat in the correct format. It is an old format of the EuroPlanes.dat and PacificPlanes.dat files
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:23 AM
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I noticed that the last two lines of the error talk about the squadron and the plane both. Maybe the new Dgen has something that associates a given squadron ( in this case 119SquadronNEI ) with certain plane types and this squadron does not have PBN1 flying in the squadron? The old Dgen did not care about what planes were in a squadron. They were separate things. I'm just guessing, not sure.
Line TestWing(f,s): 119SquadronNEI 0 00 means that the generator found and defined division (most likely the player). Here the mistake isn't present.
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