American Censorship SOPA & PIPA

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

Thank Mr Blair for signing the most one sided treaty in history, not including those of a defeated country, although that's moot.....

I think most of the British foreign policy with Bush and Blair went like this (@ 1.38 )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVreL6SFQ_k

embarrassing. The current dirtbags in Government said they'd remove this awful 'deal' if elected but have avoided it completely. It disgusts me.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Your previous comments aside, this part is beyond true.
My post over at SAS, as i am too lazy to re-type it!

You aren't alone by any imagination.

Read those congressional responses carefully, that you posted, realize one MOST IMPORTANT thing. They don't care what you think. They are empowered like never before. They don't give a whit for constituents views, they have the unions, community organizers and the media upholding their tenure in congress.

I read after Obama was elected that the media alone was worth 15 points to him in the last presidential election. McCain would have been a clear victor, except for the power of the media. I'm not saying McCain would have been any better, but he wouldn't have radicalized persons in such conspicuous authority. (czars). He would have been too aware of public opinion. Obama and his team don't care about public opinion they are empowered.

If the government is able to quash freedom of speech on the internet it could be the threshold event. People that are computer literate should build advocacy websites where people are enjoined. Young people should be extremely involved, because they are going to get to pay for the exorbitant wasting of America's resources and tyrannical government.

It is expedient, we must preserve status quo of the internet. Any government interventions no matter how small will be a step to taking it over and quashing free speech.

[BaronBonBaron]

"Immediately following Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) decision to postpone a full vote on the “PROTECT IP Act” (PIPA), which was originally scheduled for Tuesday, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), chief sponsor of the “Stop Online Piracy Act” (SOPA), has announced that he will delay further consideration of the contentious anti-piracy bill in the House “until there is wider agreement on a solution.”"

SOPA/PIPA is stopped...

“I have heard from the critics and I take seriously their concerns regarding proposed legislation to address the problem of online piracy,” said Smith in a statement. “It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products.”

...for now.

http://news.yahoo.com/sopa-stopped-c...182059946.html

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

A Saudi shiek just bought a 300,000,000 interest in Twitter. Why? Twitter and Facebook were the communication mechanism in the middle east revolutions in Egypt, Yemen, etc,etc.
Saudi Arabia has enormous oil reserves. The extremists want to get hold of that country with all that oil wealth to wage their jihad?

Hehe. Bush Jr choose to send in troops into Iraq instead. Cost just a tad more.
Same pattern as in ww2. Always being the comboy.


"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else."
- Churchill

All in good fun.

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

America has the best government money can buy.

Lobbyists spend billions each year, just lobbying Congress.

They buy all the influence ther billions can buy.

Americans don't know zip about how the stupid bills get to congress, that are created by lobbyists.

There are more rats (influence peddlers) among lobbyists than can be counted on American politican scene.

True over here too.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by BaronBonBaron

......“It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...lbreak-2011-6#

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Pavel

You know what, I could go on, anyone could, it's easy. Suffice it to say we're dealing with huge hypocracy and lies. Technically Sony are Japanese of course, but they are Global and make most of their money in the USA and Europe anyway.

[nearmiss]

I think it may be fair to say... Politicians aren't listening anywhere.

The last bastion of communication ( and the best) is the internet.

This above all must be preserved as is.

Anyone with the skill to build websites and share on the internet should consider carefully how they can be more involved. We need proactive people willing to do more to stop governments from reverting us to who knows what.

The people of the world must be united, not as special interest groups, but as the majority. The quiet ones of the majority must be enjoined to prevent governments from turning us all into worker ants.

[swiss]

sopa is dead




edit:

Smith also released the following statement on Friday:

“We need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products. The problem of online piracy is too big to ignore. American intellectual property industries provide 19 million high-paying jobs and account for more than 60% of U.S. exports. The theft of America’s intellectual property costs the U.S. economy more than $100 billion annually and results in the loss of thousands of American jobs. Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while American innovators and job creators are under attack.

19 million jobs?
$100.000.000.000 turnover.

In music and movies?! roflamo

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by NedLynch

Just my two cents, besides the fact that the suggested bills are an abomination:

The biggest problem in the US seems to be the unavailability of complete, neutral, factual and easily accessable news. The news media in the US are worse than bad, imo mostly because they are for profit companies.

Moreso than who controls money, who controls information is in power.

It is not that americans are stupid or do not care. When I came to US more than 15 years ago I immediately felt cut off from the rest of the world newswise, it's like living in a bubble or on another planet and it has gotten worse over time for sure.

The other thing is that americans actually felt they were making a change for the better for themselves and for the world by voting for Obama, or at least roughly half of the US, the other half is still stuck in their view that a country/government has to be run like a business and that capitalism = freedom and make their voting decision dependant on the candidates stand on gay marriage, abortion rights and religion while in the middle of two wars ( I remember the horrid 2004 presidential campaign).
And nobody can tell me that 8 years of George did not do their good part to transport the US and in consequence the world into the economic toilet. There are many who believe this was deliberate and targeted at the destruction of the middle class, since a strong middle class is a big factor in having an actually free people.

But alas nothing got better, the powers to be in the US are probably way beyond the grasp and control of the people and brick by brick, little by little, noticed or unoticed, freedom is being dismantled.
There are a lot of people here in the US who are dissatisfied, desperate and angry (pretty much everybody in my workplace) and yet feel powerless to change things and take control over their fortunes. If voting does nothing then what does?

The proposed legislation will not pass, this time, but the proposed measures will come back in one way or another. The control of the flow of information and the masses is way to important.

+1 well said

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by swiss

19 million jobs?
$100.000.000.000 turnover.

In music and movies?! roflamo

My guess is, that he is not just referring to Movies and Music, but also Games and Books. Just watch the end-titles-screen of any movie and look at the number of people involved. Then you might not lyao .