Fw 190 - numbers for A-8 and A-9

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

It gives the right appearence so who cares what the facts are as long you are right, fruitbat.





http://www.ww2.dk/

Like all the data posted so far for OOB besides the JG301 I posted, it is only for the first month of 1945 or very incomplete.

I would say you have proven your case!!

seems you have problems navigating through the different parts of the site,

http://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg2.htm

for example, so what were JG2 flying to the end of march 45 then......

not a real surprise.

Still waiting for some actual evidence to support your claim.

[MaxGunz]

So different units had different jobs.

I thought that it was 109's they sent to attack escorts.

[MiloMorai]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Then why keep posting nonsense?

If it is nonsense, then what do you call what you have posted Crumpp?

Oh yeah, you are not doing it to prove a point in a discussion, you are doing it to prove me wrong.

One and the same.

So you don't have the delivery reports ask for to fill in the blank months. How then can you make the statement you did with regard to the number of Fw190A-9s in service?

You don't need facts, just a perception. It is the internet!!

And you Crumpp have posted facts?

[JtD]

Keep it civil! Last warning!
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MiloMorai, what's the source for the production figures you posted? Is it available online? Sorry if I missed it.

[Crumpp]

Obviously you have not followed those links you keep posting. There is no type specific data for orders of battle beyond December 1944 on that website, fruit bat.

Find something else instead of parroting the same non- relevant information.


Wait a minute, you can't. All you can do is antagonize in the hopes the thread gets shut down.

It is a fact that all the available detailed data for 1945 shows the Fw-190A9 normal fighter replacing the Fw-190A8 normal fighter in Geschwaders operating Anton fighters.

Weird that fact conforms to Focke Wulf, GmbH stated plans and why they even built an Fw-190A9.

Crazy world, huh!

[MaxGunz]

Considering the improved performance of the A-9 over the A-8 at least as portrayed in IL-2 now, why wouldn't they switch over?

Buuuuuut when it comes to shooting down bombers, perhaps the extra armor on the A-8 is worth more. It's not like the bombers were outrunning and outmanuevering them.

I don't expect the Germans to have done the smartest things with their fighter production given how they never had an equivalent to fighter command (as Galland asked for) and spent more time avoiding Hitler's wrath than getting things right. There was also "Buddy" Milsch sabotaging development in favor of ground forces and I dunno how many little intrigues that held up the real air advances that were eventually seen in the 262 but too little and too late.

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Keep reading the thread...you are included in the usual suspects! Your question is already answered, Kaiser Söze.

I asked crumppp to post the production records he claims to have proving that all-weather A-8/R11s predominated over ordinary A-8 day fighters and all he can come up with is this nonsense AND he can't even get this one right - its Keyser Söze.

[MiloMorai]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

It is a fact that all the available detailed data for 1945 shows the Fw-190A9 normal fighter replacing the Fw-190A8 normal fighter in Geschwaders operating Anton fighters.

You haven't posted any detailed data to support your claim Crumpp.

[K_Freddie]

He (or somebody) actually posted this years ago

[MiloMorai]

From Six Months to Oblivion by Werner Girbig.

units flying Fw190As at the time of surrender

IV./JG3 - A-8s and A-9s
II./JG4 - A-8s and A-9s
III./JG5 - G-14s and A-8s
II./JG6 - A-8s and D-9s
III./JG11 - A-8s
Stab JG51 - A-8s
II./JG54 - A-8s
II./JG300 - A-8s and A-9s
I./JG301 - A-8s, A-9s and D-9s
III./JG301 - A-8s and A-9s

Three units were flying exclusively A-8s.
Four units flew a mix of A-8s and A-9s.
Two unit flew a mix of A-8s and other a/c.
One unit flew a mix of A-8s, A-9s and D-9s.