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Old 11-05-2012, 04:38 PM
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To me it doesn't matter if a person is a noob or an ace. Just checking the kill stats window inflight and watching numbers going up for certain pilots, to ridiculous figures within one hours flying time is enough to put up the yellow caution flags for me. This is repeated over and over.

Nobody is that good!

That they can have 14 kills within an hour while other very good pilots and well-known are around 3 or so. The statistics are important here. Heck, there isn't enough ammo on board for these numbers and not enough time to land and takeoff again to even find enough targets to initiate these numbers. Something is very amiss.

I've seen some pilots totaling up to 10 plus kills but they've been online for most of the day - not one hour and not necessarily repeatable.

I've been flying for many years and In my mind I'm convinced that there are good pilots out there that have some additional augmentation going on. The stats indicate that possibility.

I have no idea what these are because I do not spend any effort into looking at mods - not my style.

This is why IMHO that VAC needs to be turned on and active and the developers should have made it a part of their final delivery.
sorry but that has nothing to do with cheating...
there are that good pilots, simple fact.

ive done 10kills in one sortie not only once, and i know that there are way better pilots out there...

and especially with the stats and how they work in clod, you can get really quick to very high kill numbers, as you only have to damage the plane slightly,....if the pilot then lands and the plane despawns, you will get credit for it....
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:43 PM
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I have >500hrs of CloD time, I have not seen one instance of cheating.....

It's also mostly the Red-only fliers that are making claims about cheating, which leads to me believe this is a FM issue. To the reds, the 109's are just too good at climbing?
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:42 PM
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sorry but that has nothing to do with cheating...
there are that good pilots, simple fact.

ive done 10kills in one sortie not only once, and i know that there are way better pilots out there...

and especially with the stats and how they work in clod, you can get really quick to very high kill numbers, as you only have to damage the plane slightly,....if the pilot then lands and the plane despawns, you will get credit for it....
+1 XE-90 IN sow yesterday if i remember right heavy damage on 4or5 87s still shot down 3 +1 109 so on reg . server that would be 9 or 10 kills ,
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:03 PM
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Nobody is that good!

That they can have 14 kills within an hour while other very good pilots and well-known are around 3 or so.
Easy, go on ATAG and shoot down 14 bombers... I could easily shoot down that many on one trip especially if no escorts are around.

Alternatively vulch an airfield where people keep spawning.

Most of the better pilots dont do this because its not what they are there for, like myself. If I wanted to club seals I'd go for a holiday in Canada!
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:42 PM
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Easy, go on ATAG and shoot down 14 bombers... I could easily shoot down that many on one trip especially if no escorts are around.

Alternatively vulch an airfield where people keep spawning.

Most of the better pilots dont do this because its not what they are there for, like myself. If I wanted to club seals I'd go for a holiday in Canada!
The pilots I observe are not shooting bombers!!
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Nobody is that good!

That they can have 14 kills within an hour while other very good pilots and well-known are around 3 or so. The statistics are important here. Heck, there isn't enough ammo on board for these numbers and not enough time to land and takeoff again to even find enough targets to initiate these numbers. Something is very amiss.

I've seen some pilots totaling up to 10 plus kills but they've been online for most of the day - not one hour and not necessarily repeatable.

I've been flying for many years and In my mind I'm convinced that there are good pilots out there that have some additional augmentation going on. The stats indicate that possibility.
A few patches ago, when I was flying regularly and my kills were sharp, if I found some low-flying Red fighters I could easily get 5, maybe 6 kills in one sortie. Aiming was always my weakest point, and on a particularly "I'm shooting well today"-day I could get more than 6 in one sortie.

Bombers are a f***ing joke in this game: On ATAG there are those AI bomber flights that don't do evasives and fly nice, predictable routes. On some maps there used to be huge numbers of bombers, and the damage models are so bad in this game that I could shoot down a Blenheim or Wellington with only ~150 rounds of machine gun fire. No cannon required. Contrary to your claim, there is plenty of ammo in the 109, and even more in the 110.

I am/was an above-average pilot but still very far from the best. I'm not saying this to pump myself up; just to show how there are perfectly reasonable explanations. There are lots of guys out there who have put wayyy more time into the game than I have, and get proportionally better results than I do.

If you take into account AI bombers, 14 kills in one sortie doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility.

Honestly if I spent a week practising my aim and was very fuel-conservative I bet I could get 14 bomber kills in one 109 sortie, assuming the AI spawns cooperated.

There are a lot of really, really bad players flying this game, and it doesn't take much skill to sit around beating up on them.

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Old 11-05-2012, 08:08 PM
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To me it doesn't matter if a person is a noob or an ace. Just checking the kill stats window inflight and watching numbers going up for certain pilots, to ridiculous figures within one hours flying time is enough to put up the yellow caution flags for me. This is repeated over and over.

Nobody is that good!

That they can have 14 kills within an hour while other very good pilots and well-known are around 3 or so. The statistics are important here. Heck, there isn't enough ammo on board for these numbers and not enough time to land and takeoff again to even find enough targets to initiate these numbers. Something is very amiss.

I've seen some pilots totaling up to 10 plus kills but they've been online for most of the day - not one hour and not necessarily repeatable.

I've been flying for many years and In my mind I'm convinced that there are good pilots out there that have some additional augmentation going on. The stats indicate that possibility.

I have no idea what these are because I do not spend any effort into looking at mods - not my style.

This is why IMHO that VAC needs to be turned on and active and the developers should have made it a part of their final delivery.
Week ago maybe my friend was flying on the blue side and killed 16 planes (spits and hurries) in 1 hour, then he changed for the red side and came on ATAG TS and continued to do the same.
Lot of pilots on the server and he used to go low on Manston and Hawkinge.
Target rich envirement.He didn't strafe he like to turn with spits.

Please give us some proof or stop accusing people.

I never saw anything suspicious.109 just have better zoom climb and can hang on engine much longer than spit and it is very stable even on zero speed.I was using that even against old super spitIIa and it worked most of the times.109 you can run on 2600 rpm and then it climbs better than on automatic prop pitch.

I just wonder why I never saw threads like this one or like weapons don't work ect. on the sukhoi forum and belive me there are a lot of very strong pilots there.
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