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Old 01-21-2011, 07:30 PM
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ah man i cant wait, i cant wait , i gotta try the spit first i think, after all im a brit, but i love 109s to....i love them all
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Old 01-21-2011, 07:40 PM
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It'll be what I've seen in virtually any flightsim I've played online ... clouds of dweebs upping from Hawkinge/Manston and Calais-Marck gangbanging it out at 500 feet in the middle of the Channel.

If you seek historical gameplay online be prepared to seek for like-minded folks with magnifying glasses. You won't find it on standard servers.
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:28 PM
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... clouds of dweebs upping from Hawkinge/Manston and Calais-Marck gangbanging it out at 500 feet in the middle of the Channel.
Cool, that's just what I like. But then I'm just a 'umble fun seeker.

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Old 01-22-2011, 03:13 AM
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It'll be what I've seen in virtually any flightsim I've played online ... clouds of dweebs upping from Hawkinge/Manston and Calais-Marck gangbanging it out at 500 feet in the middle of the Channel.

If you seek historical gameplay online be prepared to seek for like-minded folks with magnifying glasses. You won't find it on standard servers.
Quoted for truth.

I don't really get where the optimistic people in this regard find their optimism.

Heck, after all these years you'd think people would know better than to fly on arcade quake shoot em all servers.

Just to be sure those "realistic" quakes aren't any better either, instead of noobs they are just filled with snobs.

And unless something epic happens and 1C makes some realistic mod of playing somehow attractive, quakes will continue to rule.
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:15 AM
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Quoted for truth.

I don't really get where the optimistic people in this regard find their optimism.

Heck, after all these years you'd think people would know better than to fly on arcade quake shoot em all servers.

Just to be sure those "realistic" quakes aren't any better either, instead of noobs they are just filled with snobs.

And unless something epic happens and 1C makes some realistic mod of playing somehow attractive, quakes will continue to rule.
If those are FR servers like BoB - Great!

Seriously, I really don't have the nerve to climb for 20 minutes just to get shot down in 2 min battle.
(cruising around at 4-5k on BoB does give you an edge)

Flying around for an hour without single kill[but I survived -hurray] is not too attractive either, at least to me.
That's why I quit ADW.

After all it's a game*; I want fun, I want action and I want entertainment.

*Wiki says: A game is a structured activity, usually undertaken for enjoyment and sometimes used as an educational tool.


Edit: Haven't had read your 2nd post when I wrote mine, sorry.
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Old 01-21-2011, 07:43 PM
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It's all about SP for me ... initally
I've been rereading The Most Dangerous Enemy by Bungay, and i really hope that 1C recreates all the strategic planning nuances and blunders of the luftwaffe. raids that start off badly, miscues and missed opportunities.

I'd love to see the evolution of the fighters from being free roaming to being shackled down to the bombers as the battle goes on.

I'm most excited to see how "human" the AI is.

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Old 01-21-2011, 08:00 PM
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I've been rereading The Most Dangerous Enemy by Bungay, and i really hope that 1C recreates all the strategic planning nuances and blunders of the luftwaffe. raids that start off badly, miscues and missed opportunities.
Superb book. I never stop reading it completely, always looking up some fact or other.
I very much doubt whether any computer sim could generate reality to that extent though!

I suppose it's possible that we'll be continually harangued by our AI leaders to rejoin formation if we wander, which might mean tight formations, vics and a tail end charlie, but with a bit of luck they'll drop these tactics sharpish!
I wonder if we'll be able to request a transfer if we don't like the leader?
Fighting Area Attacks anyone?
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:05 PM
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If I remember correctly, Geoffrey Wellum mentioned in his book "First Light", that the Spitfire had a lower maximum ceiling than the 109. All the way up until the MKV.

*edit* I think I must have remembered wrong. LOL According to this site and data, the Spit mkI had 34700ft ceiling and the 109E had 33792ft.

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Old 01-21-2011, 08:30 PM
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If I remember correctly, Geoffrey Wellum mentioned in his book "First Light", that the Spitfire had a lower maximum ceiling than the 109. All the way up until the MKV.

*edit* I think I must have remembered wrong. LOL According to this site and data, the Spit mkI had 34700ft ceiling and the 109E had 33792ft.
Steinhilper agrees with Wellum. The SpitfireII was to worry because the higher ceiling, not the SpitfireI.
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:14 AM
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We also must assume that Jerry will not fly historically, but will pretend it's 1944. So, they will not stay with the bombers, they will not engage in low level turn fights, and in short they will be the buzz killers we know them to be



Jerry will have maybe 15 minutes of fuel to play with. So I think players will be forced to fly historically...of course there may be the unlimited fuel option chosen, but then what fun would that be.
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