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Old 02-02-2010, 03:08 AM
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Kozz, can you make raw version of rules for the team battle? Based on what we have so far. So we can see what we have.

I hope you guys understand that we have (at least i have) talked about two separate tournaments here. Team and single?
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:59 AM
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Ok... something like this:

team ladder prototype rules:

1) teams

* all teams have 3 or 4 players
?) no team, when formed, can have 2 or more players ranked in the top 8 in any one mode on the leaderboards
?) every team must have one member active on the boards who is responsible for making sure their team knows all the rules

2) matches

?) teams will organize their own matches, taking before/after screenshots, and send them to the tournament moderator via PSN; or, matches will be against set opponents.
?) teams can't play each other twice in a row.

3) scoring

?) 3 points for a win, 1 point for a tie, 0 points for a loss, ? points for a win by forfeit, -? points for a forfeit

----settings and rules----

4.1) mandatory settings/rules

?) each match is two 20-minute rounds, each team hosts one round
?) all air combat is between fighters in strike mode (so dying is a kill for the enemy, confirmed or not)
?) no kamikaze/runway-sitting in strike or airfields
?) no bombers (triangle on the map) in airfields or air combat
*) capture airfields is limited ammo.
???) limited ammo in all modes

4.2) host-optional settings/rules

?) weather, time of day, map, ?
?) plane restrictions (like no UK/USSR planes, b17, p47, etc.)
?) disallow bombs or rockets in airfield capture
?) disallow rockets in air battle
???) allow unlimited ammo in fighter combat

4.3) mutual-optional settings/rules (both teams must agree for any of these to take effect, otherwise they're not allowed, or not rules)

?) cockpit-only
?) no map
?) allow jets, rocket-planes, biplanes, I-16
?) allow medium bombers in airfield capture (IL-2, bf110)

5) new teams

?) any team can join at any time, as long as it doesn't have 2 players in the top 8 in any one leaderboard mode, when they first join.

6) sponsor/prizes

?) ask Macademic, I have no idea what the publisher told him, and he hasn't been around for a while.


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that's it.

everything there seems to be a general consensus about is marked with a "*" and everything else with a "?", the "?"s change to "*"'s when they're decided.

Post any other suggestions and I'll add another "?" line with the idea.

That's one page - to help it remain just one page, just the team ladder for this post, not the individual ladder.

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Old 02-03-2010, 07:04 AM
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unlimited ammo ?? ^^
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Old 02-04-2010, 03:03 AM
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no, I forgot limited ammo... unless everyone wants unlimited ammo. Should it be mandatory or optional?
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:18 AM
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no, I forgot limited ammo... unless everyone wants unlimited ammo. Should it be mandatory or optional?
Optional. And maybe in cta it should be always limited ammo.

For scoring, how about 3-1-0 and for team who showed up 0.5 and for other team -0.5 cause there should be some penalty for not showing up.
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:45 AM
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Optional. And maybe in cta it should be always limited ammo.

For scoring, how about 3-1-0 and for team who showed up 0.5 and for other team -0.5 cause there should be some penalty for not showing up.
I agree with the scoring, and with limited ammo in CTA. Someone set up an unlimited airfield match today, it was ridiculous.

Should ammo in other modes be a host option then?

btw there were 8 players or more online between 3am and noon gmt today. There's plenty to start forming teams with.
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:04 PM
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I'm comfortable with that layout, however i believe Limited Fuel/Ammo should be on at all times
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:31 PM
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Hello all,

I've been away skiing for a bit, no internet there which explains my absence from the game and the forum.

About sponsoring, yes the publisher has indicated his okay for that but they need to await their marketing budget to be approved before they can officially commit to sponsoring a new tournament.

Will keep you posted as to when and what they're going to sponsor.

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Old 02-05-2010, 06:31 PM
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All the best to you PS3 guys, I tried to get the same thing going on Xbox and got just one reply. Team tournaments sound like a great idea as a lot of peeps are not keen on 1V1........maybe I should get a PS3!
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:18 AM
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I'm comfortable with that layout, however i believe Limited Fuel/Ammo should be on at all times
I agree, I just want to make sure enough combat styles are included. Realistically, in a 2v2 team battle, if one team is killed off, then during the time it takes them to respawn, you could figure the other team is able to return to base, refuel and reload for another sortie. I'll try to find a way to put it to a vote among everyone who's posted here.

There's a big kind of night crowd playing right now, huge games but almost all dogfights with unlimited ammo, the usual 2-dimensional thing. Some of them may have trouble adjusting. That's pretty much all anyone does anymore, except the occasional destroy-the-airfield mode and crash-into-the-bunker mode.

Macademic does the publisher want to have all the funding and etc in order before the competition starts? Or should we go ahead cause things look ready to roll soon. Lost Cause is motivating people for a battle-of-the-planes deathmatch kind of mini-tournament, and telling people to post on this forum. So there will be a lot of people around, it's a good time to start forming teams, sometime during the next week.
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