What a tracer should look like (before spazzing just look).

Originally Posted by Tiger27

Except that it doesnt happen that way, eyes are not cameras they have better anti shake sofware

Eyes do yes. But you have on goggles too. Goggles are never clear.

[choctaw111]

Originally Posted by machoo

I don't care what experts say. The tracers should have a squiggle like on Tv. Why? Because you are pressing a button that vibrates the crap out of your body , the aircraft is vibrating , the perspex would be vibrating.

It just makes sense.

Sorry. Even the when human body is shaking or vibrating our eyes are "cushioned" and have the ability to see things clearly, unlike a camera that is hard mounted to the plane.
If you fire some machine guns for yourself, you will see that this is true.

[SNAFU]

You never experienced life on board of a slow running, 2stroke 40MW diesel engine driven vessel I guess? But vibrations can render you vision blurry to even hurting if you even try to focus something at certain revolutions and certain points in your cabin.

But I don´t think wing mounted cannons or guns can induce such vibrations into the pilots seat.

I don´t mind the look of tracers, in my limited playing time (maybe 4hours of abt. 150 hrs in FMB logged via steam) I now don´t use tracers anymore. But I would like the option to switch off guns sounds, because in all the literature I read, it was mostly mentioned that the pilot could not hear the guns being fired, only notices the shaking and nose dropping of the plane, when he pressed the trigger. But that`s another story...

[bongodriver]

it was mostly mentioned that the pilot could not hear the guns being fired, only notices the shaking and nose dropping of the plane, when he pressed the trigger. But that`s another story...

Probably true but oh my god can you imagine the whining if anything like that was ever implemented, if it ain't how holywood or the media shows it it ain't real.....



Oh and something about tracers...........

[Mysticpuma]

As you mention the sound I'd like to add a very short part of an anecdote that was told to me by P-51 'Ace' Art Fiedler.

He recalled the first time he fired his guns as it went something like this;

"I got my sights on the target and squeezed the trigger......I nearly jumped out of my skin as the roar of the guns was so loud! It doesn't sound anything like you hear in the movies, you can't here the guns, it's just a load roar and vibration!"

Cheers, MP

[ATAG_Doc]

If you want that squiggly gun camera tracer look then they need to cook up a gun camera feature that records as soon as you press fire and records for 3 seconds after you release it. Build it where it looks like it is indeed a camera that is bolted down where it gets all the vibration in the field of view. Blackdog is correct. Your eyeballs are surrounded by soft tissue and that helps to reduce this affect you normally see with all this old footage from WWII.

Speaking of this. How hard would it be to create a menu item that you could enable within CoD that would act as your guncam? Can't be all that hard.

Just add a recording view that is 30 degrees FOV record to gif file.

Does this get anyone else excited??

[JG5_emil]

Originally Posted by Strike

*Epic facepalm*

Originally Posted by machoo

I don't care what experts say. The tracers should have a squiggle like on Tv. Why? Because you are pressing a button that vibrates the crap out of your body , the aircraft is vibrating , the perspex would be vibrating.

It just makes sense.

OK You are kidding which means your other post.,...u know the airsoft one was also a joke.

In which case it WAS funny after all

[PissyChrissy]

Originally Posted by machoo

I don't care what experts say. The tracers should have a squiggle like on Tv. Why? Because you are pressing a button that vibrates the crap out of your body , the aircraft is vibrating , the perspex would be vibrating.

It just makes sense.

Incorrect. They "squiggle" in gun camera videos because the camera is bolted hard to the aircraft, and there's metal-on-metal connection all the way between the guns and the optics, which ends up transferring the vibrations to the lens.

For humans, there is a lot of meat and cartilage absorbing the vibrations long before they can ever reach your eyeball.

I've fired many rounds from the 25mm bushmaster M242 in a LAV turret, and i can tell you first hand, that when you watch tracers go downrange through the optics, they squiggle, but when you pup your head out of the turret and watch with the naked eye, they do not. This is simple fact.

[Upthair]

Originally Posted by machoo

I don't care what experts say. The tracers should have a squiggle like on Tv. Why? Because you are pressing a button that vibrates the crap out of your body , the aircraft is vibrating , the perspex would be vibrating.

It just makes sense.

No, it does not.

Why do you assume that the pilot's head has to shake exactly the same way as the gun camera?

The vibration starts with the firing guns, which are attached to the wings, which are attached to the fuselage. The wing roots shake less than the middle of the wings, where the guns and camera are; and the fuselage shakes much less than the wings; and the pilot's head has to shake less than the seat he sits on.





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[KG26_Alpha]

Camera v eyball

Here's a small test for the human eyes capability.

If you are not old enough to drive or don't own a car, ask your parents or friend to let you try this.

Find a not so smooth road.

Look forwards when moving then use the screen mounted rear view mirror to look behind you.

The mirror vibrates the image slightly but when you look forwards there's no vibrated image, this is how a WW2 camera behaves when filming guncam it cannot replicate the human eyeballs capability to stabilize the image.

You can keep one eye on the mirror and one eye forwards for the effect.

Now add tracer rounds to this and you will realize the eye ball sees smooth lines and the mirror camera would show wiggles due to vibration.



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