15th winter flying IL2 Sturmovik.

[Jumoschwanz]

Here are the manuals for Hyperlobby and Sturmovik Technika's Full Mission Builder manual that I printed out back in the day. Sturmovik Technika was a fabulous website for all things IL2. Unfortunately it did not last too long. I think somewhere another website might have some of it's old pages up to view.

[wheelsup_cavu]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

Here are the manuals for Hyperlobby and Sturmovik Technika's Full Mission Builder manual that I printed out back in the day. Sturmovik Technika was a fabulous website for all things IL2. Unfortunately it did not last too long. I think somewhere another website might have some of it's old pages up to view.

The best that is available for the Sturmovik Technika site is what is left on the Internet Archive.
Sturmovik Technika @ Internet Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/200306220....com/technika/


Wheels

[Janosch]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

I remember one really well-known and skillful pilot named VSO quit flying IL2 once Forgotten Battles came out. He claimed they ruined it by watering down the flight models etc.. to make it more appealing to "gamers" than to true simmers.

I'm willing to bet that the game didn't get any easier, but he instead got better. Add your everyday paranoia of casualization to that, and it's easy to draw the wrong conclusion. What a tragedy.

Anyway, speaking of this winter, the temperature is just a tad bit too high, air humidity is 9001,44% and there's practically no snow, so everything seems darker than it should. It doesn't feel like a proper winter yet. I'm dreaming of a white Christmas.

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by Janosch

I'm willing to bet that the game didn't get any easier, but he instead got better.

I still have the original IL2 installed, a version of Forgotten Battles and also IL246, so I can fly them all back-to-back and compare them and there is no doubt that later versions of IL2 were easier to fly than the original.

That is not saying that it was more or less realistic, just saying that as a piece of software or a "game", that the original IL2 takes more skill to fly, there is no doubt about it. The engines of the aircraft were more fragile, the aircraft stalled easier, the AI was tough, and the aircraft took more damage to down them. It was a lot harder to fly the aircraft and it was harder to get a kill.