How much more is realistically fixable

[Redroach]

Hm well, I DID paint the immediate future of CoD pretty black, to be honest, but I wouldn't paint it as black as some of you do. I don't think the game will be abandoned, yet I do think that right now, about one month after EU/AUS/RU - release, the game sports as many bugs as at release. Game performance in general has been upped by quite a bit, but in the process, more bugs have been introduced. And, inexplicably to me, new features keep being added while ignoring old ones and the new features mostly end up being facade. Things will get better eventually, though I fear it will be more than 6 months...
What surprises me - or better, reinforces my belief that at least some some people retain adequate brain function, is, that there is a consumer reaction that is mostly well deserved, imo.
People are 'voting with their feet', as we say in germany. As the game stays in a pretty unpolished state, more and more people just opt for something else to play.or revert to their favourite sim. You can 'feel' that a bit by the mostly lacking support by the modding/mission-building community. People currently seem to have no intention to migrate their stuff to CoD, as evident with Lowengrin's fabulous DCG, for example. And custom missions are pretty hard to find either - there's only a handful of them over at airwarfare.com. This is where this game, supposedly expected to generate long-term sales by a thriving mod/mission-building community, gets punished right now. Harshly but adequately, in my opinion.

well ROF had optimisation problems too but not to this extent + the graphic was much better from the start (land, aa etc), and they needed a year to polish the sim....thats way I lost faith in CLOD....pitty because FM, DM and cockpits are nice in CLOD, years of development....however original IL2 with upcoming ultrapack mods will be even better and will continue the legend....
my copy of CLOD is on sale now....cheap

[Lololopoulos]

people will probably fall back to WOP, it's a one-level down alternative.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Seeker

Gamers are surprisingly forgiving.

But it'll never generate repeat sales without content.

One, static, bugged campaign for only one of the sides involved doesn't cut it.

What puzzles me is that this should be one of the easiest things in the world to fix, either including a LW campaign from some one like Extreme one or Ice fire (and wouldn't they just jump at the chance) or even better, including DCG into the game.

If ever a game needed modding to save it from it's self, this one does.

You do know there's a luftwaffe campaign included, right?

if they find the code is flawed in places, will it be able to be re-written and fixed?

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

You do know there's a luftwaffe campaign included, right?

No, I didn't.

I certainly can't find it on my default, Steam updated install. Mind you, now that I've made a fool of myself again, I'll have to check again!

Of course, I really should make a saving throw and complain about an obscure interface, shouldn't I

Edit: I just had to start the game up and check, and you're absolutely correct, there's a LW campaign, and it's bloody hard to miss once on the campaign screen (face/palm moment). Was it there from the start, or did it come with a patch, I genuinely don't remember seeing it before.

[easytarget3]

Originally Posted by Seeker

No, I didn't.

I certainly can't find it on my default, Steam updated install. Mind you, now that I've made a fool of myself again, I'll have to check again!

Of course, I really should make a saving throw and complain about an obscure interface, shouldn't I

Edit: I just had to start the game up and check, and you're absolutely correct, there's a LW campaign, and it's bloody hard to miss once on the campaign screen (face/palm moment). Was it there from the start, or did it come with a patch, I genuinely don't remember seeing it before.

it has been there from the start lol

[Blackdog_kt]

I'm not sure if it got added with the first couple of patches (the ones between the Russian and the EU release), but it was there when i installed my EU copy the first time.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Seeker

Gamers are surprisingly forgiving.

Understatement of the day Not the flight sim community at least...

[JG14_Jagr]

Originally Posted by Trumper

This is meant as a genuine question not to start a flame war.
I wondered just how much more of the sim is fixable, able to be repaired /tweaked by the developers.
Does there come a point when everything has been looked at and optimised and short of starting the whole lot again it reaches the best it can get.
I wondered how far down the line they are now.
Patches are patches and seem to be ok for some and not for other users so where is the deciding line?

Given time, I'd say everything is. The goal has always been to use this as the foundation of a series. Some things may not get implemented without further development. They have been furiously working on fixing performance and stability related things first and I must admit they have come a LONG way in terms of performance.. comparing the original release with current, I get more than 100% improvement in fps. As for stability, the only crash I have is when I make certain video settings that require a restart it does not restart on its own.. if the game said "You must restart the game for changes to take effect" and make me manually do it like some games I'd never know it was an issue. The recent patch pooched multiplayer adding stuttering... I'm not sure if its caused because of mixed versions on servers or not, that is a possibility.

I'm noticing that things are being changed under the radar a bit too.. with the latest patches the debris falling off planes seems MUCH more dramatic.