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Sternjaeger II · #**131** 08-01-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

You would think that a guy who flies P-51s pretty regularly would be the most upset about the unrealistic flight model in this 2 minute trailer. Oddly, he does not appear to be very upset. Maybe you P-51 experts should go over to ASB and set him straight about how a P-51 really performs.

Not necessarily. I showed the same trailer to another fella who regularly flies a P-51 Mustang here in the UK and at the infamous scene of the P-51 tumbling backwards he sniggered and said "a bit overdramatic, maybe you could do that in a Pitts". It screams Hollywood, that's the problem.

It's actually appalling to know that they spent so much time on research, trying to get things right, and then come out with this cartoonish thingie, but then again it wouldn't be the first time: the Gladiator was supposedly followed by experts on the Roman empire, still the whole thing was riddled with errors. Did it ruin it for me? Hell no! Loved the movie! Still, I know it won't be remembered for its accuracy.

The issue is that whenever we see a pair of wings we think "man this is gotta be accurate, since it talks about a niche subject!", but it's hardly ever the case. On the other hand, the maniacal job done by Spielberg & Co. for Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers and The Pacific probably spoilt us..

Bottomline, it's a shame to see that such a director fell in the cliche' of "we need to make this ridiculously spectacular to attract the crowds"..

Light years away from Dark Blue World, done on a infinitesimal budget part of this CGI monster.

David Hayward · #**132** 08-01-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther

I'm sure there'll be a scene with one or two all American hero's in their P51's shooting down ten naughty Germans...

The pilots are black. So it will be one or two Americans who were really born in Kenya shooting down 10 naughty Germans.

JG52Uther · #**133** 08-01-2011, 09:23 PM

I think while film makers use CGI (understandable these days) we will always have planes doing what the director wants, rather than what planes can really do.
If you want realism,go to an airshow. If you want fantasy escapism, watch these sort of films.
The problem with us as an audience, most of us can tell when its not realistic.Most people who see this sort of film won't know, or care.

furbs · #**134** 08-01-2011, 09:25 PM

Spot on.

David do you fly online in COD yet?

Codex · #**135** 08-01-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ARM505

Surely there must be some movie worthy story from their side (NOT Tom Cruise AAAAARGH epic failing as Graf Stauffenberg pleeeeeaaaase!) I say this not in support of the Germans, but merely for the 'please can we have something FRESH FFS!' aspect!

/Rant

There are but you'll never get it from a country that was an Ally during the war.

MD_Titus · #**136** 08-01-2011, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

You would think that a guy who flies P-51s pretty regularly would be the most upset about the unrealistic flight model in this 2 minute trailer. Oddly, he does not appear to be very upset. Maybe you P-51 experts should go over to ASB and set him straight about how a P-51 really performs.

lol!

looks fun, i'll watch it. never seen a real massed bomber raid so how would i know if it's right or wrong. anyone else?

fyi airshows aren't real life aircombat either. saying the film is less realistic is laughable. it's like saying this keyboard is a rubbish cat.

Codex · #**137** 08-01-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

You would think that a guy who flies P-51s pretty regularly would be the most upset about the unrealistic flight model in this 2 minute trailer. Oddly, he does not appear to be very upset. Maybe you P-51 experts should go over to ASB and set him straight about how a P-51 really performs.

And was he consulted on the making of the movie? If so how much of his input actually makes in it there? This is a dramatised movie remember

not an historical documentary.