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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-14-2012, 04:52 PM
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I think that should be 'if' rather than 'when'.
Yes, when is the real question. It is my opinion end of the year 2012 but maybe 2013?
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:03 PM
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Yes, when is the real question. It is my opinion end of the year 2012 but maybe 2013?
The development has already said the Sequels "alpha" won't be done until 2013, so it will be quite sometime before we see the Sequel. Hopefully the COD's next patch will be good enough to enjoy until more improvements come with the Sequel. Since its going to be a long time before the Sequels release, I can see some features being tested with beta patches for COD.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:50 PM
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Good news Luthier because telling the truth is the best policy.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:39 PM
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4) What’s the status of the Su-26 and the SDKs?
We will most likely include the Su-26 in the final patch for free. The SDKs, we really want to release at least the map-making SDK to the public “as is”, which is why they’re not covered by the next patch v. sequels discussion. However simply packing up the source code into a package that can be released to the public is a somewhat lengthy task that can only be done by our lead programmer. Once he’s done putting out the fires, and once the patch is out the door, we’ll find a way to squeeze that into his schedule.
With respect, I no longer have enthusiasm or confidence in any announcement about content or SDK's. I'm afraid it's a case of being let down far too often with previously undelivered promises.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:49 PM
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Meh... they should charge monthly subscription to this forum rather than paying for the game. They'll make a killing!

Tree and Ace-of-Aces posts should only be available to premium subscribers.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:00 PM
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Did they give some answers in the meantime?
Can't find them, didn't they say this evening?
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:00 PM
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It takes a very special sort of business man to accept full retail payment for a product that he knows does not meet the minimum standards of quality, then tell those customers, "I'm not happy, but I have to move on". If you can get away with it, more power to you luthier.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:01 PM
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I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation.
No, no we won't. Most developers won't put themselves in that situation, and the only one I know of who has, TK (Strike Fighters was rushed by Wal-Mart in 2002), has corrected the major problems in his sim. When Pacific Fighters was released the devs missed a few obvious things, but they were actually fixed - within 2 months. When Theater of War came out the only heads which turned were doing so because it was incomplete. They completed it and gave a massive patch for free.

Nothing about what you developers has done indicates that you ever intended to finish this. I'm glad I bought the DEMO on bargain. When you release your next demo, Battle of Moscow, I'll be passing it up.

You guys disappoint me. You overspent on graphics, inserted little game play, and completely failed to use the potential something like the Battle of Britain had to sell. As of now, Battle of Britain 2 is still better.

I hope you care about your customers as much as you say you do, because we have real concerns about your approach and it's failures.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:21 PM
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No, no we won't.

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When you release your next demo, Battle of Moscow, I'll be passing it up.

You guys disappoint me. You overspent on graphics, inserted little game play, and completely failed to use the potential something like the Battle of Britain had to sell. As of now, Battle of Britain 2 is still better.

I hope you care about your customers as much as you say you do, because we have real concerns about your approach and it's failures.
So well brought to the point. And I wonder - while most of you express much better what I could not put in English - that some still want to buy the sequel as if this is an addiction you cannot control: I learned my lesson having bought the collector´s box of CLOD although (!) I read about the problems beforehand - at that time trusting in a continuous support.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:42 PM
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Nothing about what you developers has done indicates that you ever intended to finish this. I'm glad I bought the DEMO on bargain. When you release your next demo, Battle of Moscow, I'll be passing it up.

You guys disappoint me. You overspent on graphics, inserted little game play, and completely failed to use the potential something like the Battle of Britain had to sell. As of now, Battle of Britain 2 is still better.

My sentiments, exactly. BoB2 ist still the better BoB sim and is still supported by knowledgeable enthusiasts.

I don't care about a Su26, the Messerschmitt-Mädchen or the X-Wing to be inserted. I waited years and wanted a solid, state of the art BoB sim and paid my good money for the collectors edition.

Finally I'm out. Tschüss 1C ich bin draußen...
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