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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-31-2011, 06:33 PM
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looking at the part that is 4 messerschmitt 262 "in formation", my ask is...

the formation of that plane was not allways of 3 planes?

and why they was staking the formation like do the fw190 or Bf 109, if the 262 directly need use is max velocity to attack and go away. They dont use standars tacticals, they was special force.

hope lucas change the software of the machine, or maybe when the me262 shoot his mk108, the sound will be "schiw" "schiw" "schiw"
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:04 AM
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Oh and David Hayward, nice work again... they stuff you wrote in this thread actually made me gasp
Which stuff was that, furbs? Was it the part where I pointed out that only an idiot would assume that the people who produced this movie would not know the difference between a 109 and a 262?
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:25 AM
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More Hollywood brain washing ...

I can just see the treads coming now ... "I've flown the P-51 just like they did in Red Tails but I can't catch the 262 in CoD ... the FM is porked"
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Old 08-01-2011, 04:39 AM
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Looks more "Pearl Harbour" than "Dark Blue World" so can't say as I'm too excited.

The only modern-era production I have any hope for in terms of realistic portrayal of aircraft physics (why do all CGI productions have to suck so bad?) is Jackson's Dambusters remake, although given the way the dog issue turned out it's already lost all historical credibility.
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:18 AM
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Looks more "Pearl Harbour" than "Dark Blue World" so can't say as I'm too excited.

The only modern-era production I have any hope for in terms of realistic portrayal of aircraft physics (why do all CGI productions have to suck so bad?) is Jackson's Dambusters remake, although given the way the dog issue turned out it's already lost all historical credibility.
If it makes you feel any better you can say "nigger" as much as you want at home since the movie isn't going to include it.

How does the dog even have any impact on the film? Did it work the bombsights when they were targeting the dams in Germany? If that one little thing is going to ruin the movie for you, then you have serious problems.

What people are complaining here about Red Tails is that from a 2 minute trailer they've already been able to find enough mistakes to pretty much rule it out as being anything other than a story that happens to be based on true events.
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Old 08-01-2011, 06:50 AM
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I can live with the dodgy CGI if the film is good, but to say that a bunch of geekish flight sim guys on a flight sim forum arnt going to rip the iffy CGI apart is a little silly.

We rip each other apart over much less.

Oh and David, you wouldn't understand, if you did, you wouldn't of said it in the first place.
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:29 AM
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Ah, Black people (because those are basically the only movie-worthy pilots of WW2, as evidenced by several movies already made, nothwithstanding Ben or the Belle), vs Nazi's (because that's what ALL Germans were in WW2). Great. I can't wait. Also, planes that clearly weigh nothing at all and have no inertia, as CGI always manages to put so obviously on display.

Seriously though, could somebody make a movie that portrays at least some elements of the war from the German side without making them all out as comic bad guys? This was after all a titanic struggle involving another side, in all it's complexity, and they WEREN'T ALL BABY-MURDERING NAZI'S! Surely there must be some movie worthy story from their side (NOT Tom Cruise AAAAARGH epic failing as Graf Stauffenberg pleeeeeaaaase!) I say this not in support of the Germans, but merely for the 'please can we have something FRESH FFS!' aspect!

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Old 08-01-2011, 09:44 AM
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No all German soldiers look like "orcs" and only say "ja ja ja"

For the most part that's true, there are some good exceptions as you know i guess.
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It's nice to see Cuba gooding do this role again.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:43 AM
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It looks like a 'message' movie set in WW2 more than a film about WW2.. Oh well, I'll probably watch it enjoy it for what it is and also enjoy pulling it to bits.

Also looks like another hollywood re-write of history for artistic reasons..

I think there's also a big nod to Star Wars in this, anyone else reminded of Porkins (from A New Hope) death when watching the trailer?

It is a Lucasarts film so it'll probably have references to other movies throughout... Like ET in the Ball turret of a B-17, or something..

I totally agree on the CGI being inertia-less, when is sombody going to do some CGI that looks like it has some weight to it?
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