The US release date needs to be moved up 1 week it makes no sense at all for this

[GabeFan]

Originally Posted by dennis580

Oh well all I was hoping was this thread would bring attention to the publishers to bump the release of BOP a week because it is directly competing with HOE for my, and others games $50.

Yes...I agree. These games are both WW2 flight games, so they are competing for the same money in my opinion. Moving the BoP release date up a week couldn't hurt. I'm a sucker for WW2 games so I'm sure I'll be getting both at some point.

"Heroes of the Pacific" was a pretty good game, although it's too arcadeish style hurt it's replay value, and with not much info about HoE, BoP will be the first priority. I'm sure BoP will be a MUCH better game...

[BadKarmaSutra96]

Releasing a demo for this game was a huge boost in the chances IL2 will be a huge success over HoE.

Also, I seem to remember news that production on HoE was cancelled for several months earlier this year. It was only recently announced that it was being planned for release just a few weeks ago. That may tell you something, like that game could potentially be incomplete when it ships. Personally, I expect HoE to be an incomplete, hastilly released and arcadey product being sold as a tag-on to the potential success of IL-2.

[Moog]

I watched a few hoe videos and might must say the game falls flat and is unlikely to please neither graphics hoes, nor WWII flight games hoes. I can't believe how bad it looks in comparison to BOP. Just watch those hoe planes move defying all laws of gravity. Pathetic.

And as for all these debates on moving the release date up... makes no sense to me whatsoever.

[David603]

Well, in Europe Birds of Prey comes out before Heroes Over Europe, so that situation is reversed over here. However, I can see your point about the two games competing for sales, since while they occupy the opposite ends of the WWII flight spectrum, a lot of sales are made to people who go into a shop and buy a game based on the box, and being present on the shelf is a major advantage. I know a lot of people buy games this way because I was working in a Gamestation store over the earlier this year.

[dennis580]

Originally Posted by David603

since while they occupy the opposite ends of the WWII flight spectrum

Your forgetting just how nichy the WWII flight spectrum is. That is a very, very small spectrum.

[versapak]

Originally Posted by dennis580

Your forgetting just how nichy the WWII flight spectrum is. That is a very, very small spectrum.

Forgetting how?

Smaller niche audiences also tend to be more informed audiences.


Have you even played the demo that they released for BoP?

Do you even know what IL-2's legacy is (The game, not the plane)?


They are a week apart. They are two very different styles of games.

If they miss out on a few purchases made by uninformed people who have to buy whatever comes out first, then oh well. Reviews and word of mouth will sort things out in the end.




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[dennis580]

Originally Posted by versapak

Forgetting how?
Smaller niche audiences also tend to be more informed audiences.

The audience for hardcore WWII Flight Sims on consoles is way, way too small to make a profit. If they want any kind decent sales they are going to have to reach a far bigger audience then that. People like me who have a interest in WWII Flight games, but who are not at all hardcore flight sims fans.

[Marchochias]

Hahah this denniss guy is so naive. He wants it moved up just for HIM, as if his 50 bucks makes any difference.

Look, if you have such a short attention span that you can't wait a whole week to get the best combat flight sim out there over a pathetic arcade game like Heroes of Europe, go ahead and get Heroes of Europe and stop trying to tell the developers of IL-2 what to do.

[Buggins]

Originally Posted by Marchochias

Hahah this denniss guy is so naive. He wants it moved up just for HIM, as if his 50 bucks makes any difference.

Look, if you have such a short attention span that you can't wait a whole week to get the best combat flight sim out there over a pathetic arcade game like Heroes of Europe, go ahead and get Heroes of Europe and stop trying to tell the developers of IL-2 what to do.

Exactly. +1

[H Lecter]

Heroes of the Pacific was an excellent game and at least a bit more leaning towards realism than Blazing Angels (which was such a disappointment with its missing cockpit view that it's collecting dust after finishing only 2 missions).

So far I always hoped for a sequel of HotP, but knowing that IL-2 is coming I don't really care anymore.

An earlier release, though surely appreciated, will not change my mind about these two games. I'll get IL-2 when it comes out and HoE when it sells for half price...