Spit/109 sea level speed comparisons in 1.08 beta patch

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Originally Posted by Kurfürst

Just explain how a plane with less or no excess thrust can pull a sustained turn better than a plane with more excess thrust, thank you.

How much excess thrust does a Spitfire at SL, running at +6 1/4 boost has at about 280 mph 1g at David?
How much more excess thrust does a Spitfire at SL, running at +6 1/4 boost require in 2g turn at about 280 mph David?

Interesting that you keep talking about the 6 1/4 boost and not the 12 boost.

How much excess thrust does a Bf 109E at SL running at 1.35ata bppst has at about 280 mph 1g at David?

less than a 12 boost Spitfire

Which has a better sustained turn at 400 mph David, a Spitfire IX or a Me 262 (P-80 if you like)?

Spit every time.
Show any acual test that says otherwise. Show any 262 pilot who says that he would turn faster than any piston fighter.
No, their advantage was speed and the key was keeping your speed high and making it almost impossible to get a shot at you

I am still trying to work out how the German test authorities got it so wrong. I admit that I cannot find any reason and neither can anyone else, so maybe, just maybe they got it right and the 109 couldn't turn inside the Spitfire, after all thats what their official report says