Thoughts about Friday's update

[Robert]

Originally Posted by HorrorRoach

A perfectly working COD would turn alot of head and create free advertising on it's own. A perfectly working BOM is wishful thinking considering their track record.

1C/Maddox will garner more money for development by the financial backers than a few hundred or thousand added sales of CoD. The pocket books believe the development crew is able to right the ship or they wouldn't invest in the series. We, the buying public, are skeptical because of their track record, but if the financial backers believe in investing the money, I have to think/hope they will be able to release a product that will satisfy many of us.

It's understandable the disdain some cast toward CoD. The BoB was a huge swing point of WW2. There's a huge feeling of national pride by our British members, and having the sim faulter as bad as it did is a bitter pill. On a playing level, there were glaring errors which add to that frustration. Unless the group really are charlitans and have no personal pride in their work, I can't see any one releasing the game in the state it was released except that they were under the gun to release it. I don't believe Luthier et al are charlitans, and they do have a sense of personal pride. For what ever reasons (and they've been discussed ad nauseum) the game was sold in the state it was.

But production goes forward, and the backers believe in the developers. We can only hope they're right. I'll hedge my bet and watch with great interst, and a cautious eye. I think that's fair, and 1C knows it. They have an uphill battle to win back many flight simmers. I hope they pull it off. The backers think they can.

[jcenzano]

it is true it is a small market, but also a market of "older than average in videogames market" customers, and therefore with more money to spend (generally speaking).

We simmers are also loyal to a good product (sometimes even to a bad one).

I for one have bought every single item released for ROF and I hardly play it (I don´t want to calculate the total...)

I would rather pay for extra content if that means also extra support.

@B6, is there any way to support the company through donations????

I would be willing to do so if that means it helps.

[Rowddy]

Originally Posted by HorrorRoach

Their line of thinking is all wrong.

"Unfortunately, as all businesses we have goals, budgets, profits, losses, expenses, and wages. We have milestones to meet with our future products, and we just cannot miss those."

"Most of you have probably guessed that Cliffs of Dover was not exactly the most profitable project in the world, and for at least the past year supporting it did nothing for the bottom line but put it deeper into the red."

They're acting like they can't make money off Cliffs of Dover anymore. This is ridiculous. It's not like the market is "tapped out"... As a matter of fact, the fastest way for them to make money is to fix Cliffs of Dover so more people buy it. Some advertising would help too. The money they're spending on developing the sequel should be used to advertise Cliffs of Dover. All company personnel should be working on making Cliffs of Dover a game that people are forced to buy because it's awesome. I don't want to hear crap about how the flight sim market is small, not many people are into these types of game... The sales will never be spectacular. Well, make a damn game that increases the simmer base, give newcomers motivation to overcome the learning curve required to enjoy the game. You just need an awesome game.

They're going to make this sequel, and it's not going to be much better then COD is now. Mark my words. They're going to keep releasing half finished products for spurts of money to keep afloat. I think they're only half serious about these games.

EJ

You realy have nothing better to do then spamming these TROLL posts?? get a life forgodsake

[zanzark]

Well, around 18 months have passed since first realease, and I'm still waiting for a decently playable game.

It's very nice all of this "beta patch" stuff, and the hope that some day we will have a decent game...
BUT, we are not beta testers. Beta testers GET paid, to test software.

Campaign is still broken.
Crashes a lot. (NO I'm not sending crash reports, because i'm not a beta tester)
Still a lot of freezes during gameplay, which totaly ruins the experience.

Damage models are still absolute crap. Sometimes you can unload all the worlds lead into the bombers engine and nothing happens. No smoke, nothing.

Today I crashed into a bombers tail. My airplane vaporised. And this is what happened to it's tail:


That is Alpha bug.. not even beta.
Just give up, scrap the project and just make a new expansion to IL2 Sturmovik. (Or ask daidalos guys to do it)

[jermin]

Originally Posted by zanzark

just give up, scrap the project and just make a new expansion to il2 sturmovik. (or ask daidalos guys to do it)

+100000

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by zanzark

BUT, we are not beta testers. Beta testers GET paid, to test software.

I've beta tested several products (RO2, WoT, ARMA 2 daily betas to name a few recent ones).

Still waiting on those cheques...

[Robert]

What? You couldn't have put this in any of the other whinefest topics? It's not like you said anything that's not been said before. You didn't even add a flair of originality. Shheeesh!


Honestly, if you feel they should give up, then maybe it's you that should step back for a while. 1C may or may not ever get it right, but they're not giving up.

Sorry. You hit a nerve, and I'm hornery today.

[Red Dragon-DK]

Why do you want it to fail. Lets assume it did, what would you do then. Go somewhere else I would guess. Why not just say to yourself that this is a dead project and it has failed and then go somewhere else to start with? So you are finally a free man and you do not have to worry about this.

I think you're trying to start a new troll, which roused to fight. I think this is your real purpose of this thread. Hope it will be closed soon.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Just like to point out the squad Tree UK refers to is JG27 not 5./JG27.

People often refer to us in error as JG27...

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Just like to point out the squad Tree UK refers to is JG27 not 5./JG27.

People often refer to us in error as JG27...

Yes that is true, Im not aware of 5./JG27 winning any online comps in IL2FB anyway. But thanks for the clarification.