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Old 08-25-2012, 12:40 PM
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Just a small request, copied over from BFs forums:

can we force / limit the squadrons on the DF server in 4.12 like we do with airforces?
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Old 08-25-2012, 03:13 PM
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Google those abbreviations
It's like buying an import car in U.S or U.K and find the owner's manual is in it's maker's original Korean, Japanese or German language and if you asked for the manual in English, the dealer's response would be: Google it yourself!
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I like those historical name
But an English description in front of foreign abbreviations would be a nice addition so the player would know what munitions are at his disposal rather than closing the game and searching them in a dictionary or the Google.

By the way "those historical names" aren't names, they are abbreviated foreign words, and most of them are still in use (in their respective countries), so they are as "historical" as their English counter parts are such as; AT i.e Anti Tank, HE i.e High Explosive, which were used then and are still in use today.

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Old 08-26-2012, 12:18 AM
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It's like buying an import car in U.S or U.K and find the owner's manual is in it's maker's original Korean, Japanese or German language and if you asked for the manual in English, the dealer's response would be: Google it yourself!Cheers.
Straw man argument. This is a WW2 historical flight sim not a car. It presupposes some knowledge or interest in the field.
That said, if you can't work up a basic interest to do some research when you come across something you don't know about, then why are you bothering, really? I quite enjoy researching and learning new stuff, but that might just be me.

Alternatively you could always follow idefix44's link and print a copy out.
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I think that you'll be able to find a tuto to learn how to scroll in the page linked above...
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but the tools and information are all out there and not hard or time consuming to find or use. To completely reject these smacks of something that starts to look a bit like laziness.

It has been a long time since I read the pdfs that come with the game, but aren't all these weapons systems decribed in there anyway? The car manual so to speak?
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:10 AM
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Not specifically aimed at 4.12, but it would be nice if the damage model sequence especially those related to wing or engine nacelle hits could trigger the dropping of one or both of the under cart, as this seems to be quite a regular occurrence in a lot of archival footage.

In regards to munitions naming debate above, I for one like it the way it is and when I'm in doubt I look it up.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:53 AM
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I do agree that it is just impossible to translate the names of loadouts or whatever into english. Why English by the way, and not Russian, German or Uzbek? Il2 is played world-wide.
Still I think it is too harsh to accuse people of lazyness, just because they do not know something or do not know how to look for it (Everything is just dead simple, if you only happen to know it). But some things are not as easy as they look at first sight. For example: what does "default load-out" mean for an ac that is not included into the data-base. A simple solution would be an update of the Database, that has not been done since the very beginning of the game. Including a new section: "load-outs". Imho it should not be too hard to do, because the TD guys have all the knowledge, information and sources (it still needs time, I know ...).
Thus even casual players could find the info without leaving the game.

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