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[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by Glider

If you could suggest a book that shows that the 109 could turn with a Spitfire that would also be appreciated.

Messerschmitt Me. 109 Handling and Manoeuvrability Tests
BY M. B. MORGAN, M.A. and D. E. MORRIS, B.SC.
COMMUNICATED BY THE PRINCIPAL DIRECTOR OF SCIENTIFIC RESEARC (AIR)
MINISTRY OF SUPPLY
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Reports and Memoranda No. 2361
September 1940*

5. Fighting Qualities of the Me. 109. – 5.1. Dog-fights with Spitfire and Hurricane.

... When the Me.109 was following the Hurricane or Spitfire, it was found that our aircraft turned inside the Me.109 without difficulty when flown by determined pilots who were not afraid to pull their aircraft round hard in a tight turn. In a surprisingly large number of cases, however, the Me. 109 succeeded in keeping on the tail of the Spitfire or Hurricane during these turning tests, merely because our Pilots would not tighten up the turn suficiently from fear of stalling and spinning. ...

http://kurfurst.org/Tactical_trials/...ls/Morgan.html

[Crumpp]

I had to stop about 10 years ago for medical reasons.

Sorry to hear that Glider.

Excellent find Kurfurst.

[DC338]

When the Me.109 was following the Hurricane or Spitfire, it was found that our aircraft turned inside the Me.109 without difficulty when flown by determined pilots who were not afraid to pull their aircraft round hard in a tight turn. In a surprisingly large number of cases, however, the Me. 109 succeeded in keeping on the tail of the Spitfire or Hurricane during these turning tests, merely because our Pilots would not tighten up the turn suficiently from fear of stalling and spinning

Well that is hardly an answer that the 109 could turn with a spitfire.

I reckon I could out turn some people in an A380 that doesn't mean that the 380 can turn well.