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Old 06-30-2011, 11:13 PM
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I doubt anyone would've won against Germany alone, maybe Russia but they would've been defeated if it wasn't for Hitlers foolish misstakes & planning.
Nazi Germany without Japan or Italy against Russia xor America alone would have been a pretty certain loss for Nazi Germany. I think the British Empire might have done it, there were a lot of folks in the Empire, but it would have been a closer thing and very expensive if it was doable at all.

However, such "what if"s are very much speculative fantasy, there is no way of making a real assessment, it didn't happen that way.
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Instead we've to listen to patriotic modern day kids who believe the US/Brits won the war by themselves.
I doubt anyone would've won against Germany alone, maybe Russia but they would've been defeated if it wasn't for Hitlers foolish misstakes & planning.
And what do Patriotic modern day Swedish kids say about WW2? How Sweden stayed neutral and supplied Germany with high grade Iron Ore?

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Old 07-01-2011, 03:10 PM
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And what do Patriotic modern day Swedish kids say about WW2? How Sweden stayed neutral and supplied Germany with high grade Iron Ore?

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Interesting isn't it... how people make conclusions about others and don't know themselves.

What is that old expression...know thyself?

I'd say it would be the better part of wise for anyone on this international forums to keep their disparaging remarks about other countries to themselves. There just aren't any countries that have done things non-politically. Politics, I am convinced is the enemy of all countries. As citizens and just plain folks we get along very well.
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Well said nearmiss.
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The thing is that we do have people who think that the US 'won WWI and WWII -- for everyone, by itself, etc' but they are either young or morons or both.

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From my experience Max, that condition is not exclusive to US citizens.

The moronosphere is ever increasing in size.
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:19 AM
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And what do Patriotic modern day Swedish kids say about WW2? How Sweden stayed neutral and supplied Germany with high grade Iron Ore?

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I guess the same as Patriotic modern day US kids would say about WW2, how the US stayed neutral and supplied Britain with just about everything... oh wait, that was different.

I fail to see what is wrong with a neutral country doing business with a warring country just like it did so before the war... its a silly notion about that they were in doing business with THEM and not US. Yeah I guess the Swedes should have realized how morally wrong it was to trade with the loosing side, and should have just waited until the war would end. Who cares if Swedish firms and mines loose their major and only possible business partner, right?

This is so silly that its beyond comprehension, really. It ranks in sillyness with "why did not the US bomb railway lines to Auschwitz" etc.
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