No coop in this game?

[furbs]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most of these already available?
Can someone run a server now from their own PC?
Can you choose the aircraft you want to fly, if its available in the mission?
Can AI fly aircraft now in online missions?
Can you refly or load another mission?
Can you start the mission when everyone is ready, when indicated by the Chat or Comms.
Isn't hyperlobby available to meet before the mission?
Can the server set a password so only squad members can join?

I see nothing to stop a squad from practicing a number of different types of missions, but I do see the need for documentation and GUI changes to make it easier to implement, and see no reason that won't be implemented at some point.

Not sure but didn't I read recently that they were rewriting the GUI that may be available by the Sequel, and therefore would overwrite the one in COD.

I'm not aware of all the problems Coop users are having, but I think now that more people will be able to fly the sim, the developers fixing script bugs, releasing documentation, rebuilding the GUI, mission Triggers, and other options in the FMB will make COOP's and progressive online wars far superior to anything we ever had in the original series.

Tell you what Chivas, lets try it.
Join our TS and you try and run a COOP with a few of us, lets organize a time and run a few training COOP's.

You make a simple training COOP with say a 8 vs 8, 109s and spits meeting at 12k feet over the channel and run it on your PC and we will join and test.

Deal?

Originally Posted by furbs

Tell you what Chivas, lets try it.
Join our TS and you try and run a COOP with a few of us, lets organize a time and run a few training COOP's.

You make a simple training COOP with say a 8 vs 8, 109s and spits meeting at 12k feet over the channel and run it on your PC and we will join and test.

Deal?

Yep, lets do it. you make the COOP map chivas and we will bring the pilots, in the old IL2 you could make a COOP map for 8v8 in about 2 mins. Let us know when you have the COOP map ready and we will sort out a time to do it.



In fact lets extend this challenge to everyone....

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I'll never understand why developers shoot themselves in the foot. Don't try to fix something that isn't broken is all I'll say. I just expected this to be like IL2 as far as coop went and I feel they have really made a big mistake with this one. All I ever wanted out of the game was better graphics and damage models.. Can someone tell me if that is a lot to ask when you consider we have the hardware support such things?

I feel the same. I thought that with il-2 as basically a 10-year prototype/dry-run for how to build the ultimate flight-sim, COD would simply build on the many good features while adding exciting new elements.

Instead they seem to have felt the need to reinvent the wheel in a lot of cases. To be fair, a lot of the GUI issues seem to be down to it being a real rush-job, cobble something together quick, we've got to release a year early effort. Even they hate it - Luthier as good as said so.

The positive point is that the GUI is being redone for the sequel. So I think NOW is the time to really put the pressure on and make sure that the devs build in a suitable interface for co-op use.

[addman]

Originally Posted by kendo65

I feel the same. I thought that with il-2 as basically a 10-year prototype/dry-run for how to build the ultimate flight-sim, COD would simply build on the many good features while adding exciting new elements.

Instead they seem to have felt the need to reinvent the wheel in a lot of cases. To be fair, a lot of the GUI issues seem to be down to it being a real rush-job, cobble something together quick, we've got to release a year early effort. Even they hate it - Luthier as good as said so.

The positive point is that the GUI is being redone for the sequel. So I think NOW is the time to really put the pressure on and make sure that the devs build in a suitable interface for co-op use.

I am sure that there will be a coop interface in BoM since they are taking the time to re-do the whole GUI, by now they've heard the complaints so many times from so many people that they'd have to be both blind and deaf if they don't include it. Luthier has said in a Q&A that he sees no need for change with regards to coop interface, this was last year though but the fact is, a lot of people that have paid and are playing this game see the need for it. You have to cater to your audience, it's not about what luthier finds functional in the sim, he's not the only customer is he? It's not just a "vocal minority" about this issue, you see people that have been registered for a long time but only made a few posts speak up, some people even register just to say that they want yarn "old" coop interface.

This takes nothing away from all the marvelous new features in CloD, the people who praise these new fantastic scripting features are welcome to use them as much as they like and enjoy, I don't care but don't protest or try to discourage us who actually want a coop GUI. Go enjoy all the great things you are talking about, let us, who want an "old fashioned" coop interface campaign for it in peace. This imposing of things I don't really care about from some people is really starting to irritate by now, had to say it.

[Buchon]

Agree, I think that is a GUI problem more than other thing.

[droz]

I've no issue with people wanting to campaign for a specific coop style interface in the game, but to say the game has no coop functionality is extremely short sighted.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by droz

I've no issue with people wanting to campaign for a specific coop style interface in the game, but to say the game has no coop functionality is extremely short sighted.

It's not short sighted, it's wrong, plain and simple.

[furbs]

Yes you can work round it and run a COOP but its not working for the majority of people, you can see that by the number of COOP's your able to see and join.

None.