Release it?

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by Nephris

Of ffs..not another useless thread on that...

Old development rule:
Release it, when it´s done!

Again:
How many of you will cry & whine for a patch that introduces new bugs?
Patience is virtue


I bed my 2 pennies this thread will be deleted...any calls?

your argument is null and void seeing as how they didnt follow this rule to begin with...at least if they release the BETA patch, it would have the word BETA attached to it....

if they release a beta patch, its the users choice to download it or not...why delay testing on the community which you know they will end up doing anyways...

it would also be a good way to test the new bug tracker....

but of course giving the user a choice, and optional download, is no good for anyone....even those who dont want it could simply choose to not download it they would rather impose their own views on others, and have it so NO ONE can download it....what a joke...


edit i keep seeing "dont release it till its done" so following this train of though, releasing anything beta is a no no?? i mean its not like they followed this rule to begin with...i mean the DAMAGE IS DONE...releasing a BETA patch to the community, isnt the worst thing they could do...i guess you people who say "dont release it till its done" refused to download the previous beta patches...i. suppose you people refuse to download beta patches that hotfix an issue, cuz the nature of beta implies that its not finished...unless you refuse to download all kinds of "beta" releases you are nothing but a hypocrite, and probably a fanboy...

[AndyJWest]

Why do people always assume that there is an 'it' to release? With a project this complex, it is highly unlikely that there is always a single ongoing 'current development version' of the software while it is being worked on. Instead, a (relatively) stable prior version will most likely be used as the base for revisions, and only when a new 'beta' is required will the revised software be compiled as a unit - at which point, it isn't a 'beta', but an 'alpha', until it is confirmed that there aren't (too many) new bugs introduced by the interactions between different changes.

[vicinity]

Originally Posted by tk471138

your argument is null and void seeing as how they didnt follow this rule to begin with...at least if they release the BETA patch, it would have the word BETA attached to it....

if they release a beta patch, its the users choice to download it or not...why delay testing on the community which you know they will end up doing anyways...

it would also be a good way to test the new bug tracker....

but of course giving the user a choice, and optional download, is no good for anyone....even those who dont want it could simply choose to not download it they would rather impose their own views on others, and have it so NO ONE can download it....what a joke...


edit i keep seeing "dont release it till its done" so following this train of though, releasing anything beta is a no no?? i mean its not like they followed this rule to begin with...i mean the DAMAGE IS DONE...releasing a BETA patch to the community, isnt the worst thing they could do...i guess you people who say "dont release it till its done" refused to download the previous beta patches...i. suppose you people refuse to download beta patches that hotfix an issue, cuz the nature of beta implies that its not finished...unless you refuse to download all kinds of "beta" releases you are nothing but a hypocrite, and probably a fanboy...

Exactly, I agree completely.

Given that they said a few weeks ago all they had left to do was fix problems with tracers/gunsights then you'd assume now they're going into beta testing they would have a pretty complete patch, they'd have been testing it throughout each build and Luthier has said they haven't run into a CTD in months.

It's time to stop being afraid of the community and the critics (there will ALWAYS be people complaining). Release a beta now and problems that would take the beta testers a couple of weeks to find would probably be found by the community by the end of the day.

Really, if it's nowhere close to read then fine, I can wait, but I really do think involving the community in testing will only improve the overall quality of the patch when it is released.

[sorak]

Originally Posted by Nephris

Of ffs..not another useless thread on that...


I bed my 2 pennies this thread will be deleted...any calls?

Oh no!! i wouldnt want to lose 2 pennies.. so we know you believe in yourself.

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by Nephris

Of ffs..not another useless thread on that...

Old development rule:
Release it, when it´s done!

Again:
How many of you will cry & whine for a patch that introduces new bugs?
Patience is virtue


I bed my 2 pennies this thread will be deleted...any calls?

Sorry, but I for one am sick of reading posts like this given the fact that they should have only released the game when it was finished in the first place. Why preach to everyone to be patience when everyone knows that you are testing people's patience when they have paid for a broken product and are left waiting for it to be fixed. Seriously, are you one of these people who would except a crapped out car you bought new and just sit back while it's in the garage getting fixed for a year? If it wasn't for these people moaning in the first place you may never have seen this patch, so just think about that for a moment.

[taildraggernut]

But the moaning should have stopped once the devs started working on the fix we wanted.

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by taildraggernut

But the moaning should have stopped once the devs started working on the fix we wanted.

The moaning will stop they deliver on their promises. There is a well known saying "Actions speak louder then words." People are bored because they haven't seen any action for so long now and they feel they are been strung along. Lets just hope the patch is released a.s.a.p because it's well overdue.

[ramstein]

in 36 hours Steam will send out the patch? Or will it be a stand alone beta (not official), and we will need to back up our copy..
??

[Tavingon]

Originally Posted by Aer9o

Not everybody voted though and the general mood is that people are fed up waiting. After all we are just willing to test a beta patch not a finished product!

Very true, please let us have a crack at it before the steam general users get the shipment

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Aer9o

Not everybody voted though and the general mood is that people are fed up waiting.

nooo... the general feeling is; a few (very few) people are fed up waiting