American Censorship SOPA & PIPA

[addman]

It seems -right now- that the bill probably won't be passed and rightly so. This is a victory for freedom on the internet and I bet for every try that those money mongering suits do to limit it will meet even stiffer and stiffer opposition. Here in Finland I've done what I've could, commenting on online news articles and informing people on why this SOPA (which actually translates directly to "garbage" in Swedish) bill is such a bad thing.

At the same time though, here in Finland, thepiratebay.org has been blocked by Elisa (which is a big ISP here) because they have been threatened to pay hefty fines by the "IFPI" (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry). It was a court order and Elisa had to comply or pay fines, they chose the former. Other ISP's here are under the same "threat" but nothing has come of it yet. Sadly, I have Elisa DSL connection so I can no more access the piratebay. It does not bother me in the sense that I can't download pirated music/software/games/movies, if I wanted to there are countless alternative sites.

IT DOES OUTRAGE ME THOUGH THAT IN A SO CALLED FREE AND MODERN SOCIETY AS FINLAND I CANNOT VISIT ANY WEBSITE I WANT, PIRATE SITE OR NOT PIRATE SITE. I AM ASHAMED OF HAVING TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHICH ROBS ME OF MY LIBERTIES ESPECIALLY IN SUCH A SNEAKY AND QUIET FASHION AS THIS COURT RULING.

"It's just one website and a pirate one as well" some might say. I see it as the beginning of the end of the free internet that we have had so far.

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by addman

It seems -right now- that the bill probably won't be passed and rightly so. This is a victory for freedom on the internet and I bet for every try that those money mongering suits do to limit it will meet even stiffer and stiffer opposition. Here in Finland I've done what I've could, commenting on online news articles and informing people on why this SOPA (which actually translates directly to "garbage" in Swedish) bill is such a bad thing.

At the same time though, here in Finland, thepiratebay.org has been blocked by Elisa (which is a big ISP here) because they have been threatened to pay hefty fines by the "IFPI" (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry). It was a court order and Elisa had to comply or pay fines, they chose the former. Other ISP's here are under the same "threat" but nothing has come of it yet. Sadly, I have Elisa DSL connection so I can no more access the piratebay. It does not bother me in the sense that I can't download pirated music/software/games/movies, if I wanted to there are countless alternative sites.

IT DOES OUTRAGE ME THOUGH THAT IN A SO CALLED FREE AND MODERN SOCIETY AS FINLAND I CANNOT VISIT ANY WEBSITE I WANT, PIRATE SITE OR NOT PIRATE SITE. I AM ASHAMED OF HAVING TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHICH ROBS ME OF MY LIBERTIES ESPECIALLY IN SUCH A SNEAKY AND QUIET FASHION AS THIS COURT RULING.

"It's just one website and a pirate one as well" some might say. I see it as the beginning of the end of the free internet that we have had so far.

Cant you use a proxy site to access thepiratebay?

[BaronBonBaron]

Anyway, here's a good article on the subject.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...s-it-worse.ars

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

America has the best government money can buy.

Lobbyists spend billions each year, just lobbying Congress.

They buy all the influence ther billions can buy.

Americans don't know zip about how the stupid bills get to congress, that are created by lobbyists.

There are more rats (influence peddlers) among lobbyists than can be counted on American politican scene.

True over here too.

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Will a views of people outside the US count?

Hell, they don't even listen to we citizens anymore, so your totally out of consideration.