Friday Update, Q&A - December 23, 2011

[jg27_mc]

Originally Posted by luthier

...and we're doing that for free seven months after release.l.

The software was a complete mess at release (at a certain point it still is...): I have paid almost 50€ for a download, as a customer I wasn't expecting anything different... Well actually I was, never in my dreams I have thought CloD was going to be launched in such a state. After 7 months I have launcher crashes all the time, planes flying with no wings/tails, lack of AA and really poor performance/optimization specially for us, ATI users.

Originally Posted by luthier

That is however simply not possible with some features. In some cases that's a question of limited resources. We cannot make a new flyable for CoD because that means one less flyable for the sequel.

I can understand that... But looking at the recent past since CloD launch, only a prequel (paid of course) like the Battle of France would have made me understand MG way of running things... If we are talking of a ETO sequel, there's no logic whatsoever! (except financial... maybe).

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by Havoc04

Well it seems that after reading all of that. That in order to see improvements in CLOD you will have to buy the expansion.. And i get the horrible feeling that the next patch will BE the expansion, which equals paying cash for fixes. I certainly HOPE this isn't the case. Am i complaining? Sure am

Regards

Originally Posted by Tavingon

I am worried..

OMG!!!! Really? Stop perpetuating these rumors! Did you even read what Luthier wrote in this very thread this very day?

Originally Posted by luthier

Hey folks,

I see that these answers led some folks here, and most of the folks on my favorite sukhoi.ru, to read between the lines and see my answers to specific questions as indications of larger-scale abandonment of the project.

That's not the case at all.

I answered specific questions and didn't touch on the larger effort. It remains the same. Sped up graphics, launcher errors, improved FM, etc, all of that is in progress as previously stated.

We are trying to pull off a very difficult balancing act with developing a new game and supporting an old one at the same time. Pretty much no one does that. Most large developers simply release games, support them for a month at the most, and then switch to new paid content regardless of the state of the game. We are however trying not only to patch up major issues, we're working on improving things that generally work - and we're doing that for free seven months after release. We are doing that by trying to parallel tasks as much as possible and improving CoD while developing a sequel.

That is however simply not possible with some features. In some cases that's a question of limited resources. We cannot make a new flyable for CoD because that means one less flyable for the sequel. With other tasks it's simply a matter of time. Some of the changes we're making are so sweeping, they're scheduled to be completed very close to the sequel's ship date. The animation for example is such a huge task with so many facets that we can't just take it, turn it into a half a gig patch, and release it for CoD a month before the release of the sequel.

And to make sure to drive my main point across. We are still working on improving CoD. No one's abandoned it. There will be patches. My answers about things in the sequel were meant for those specific features. Please don't try to read between the lines!

[Havoc04]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

OMG!!!! Really? Stop perpetuating these rumors! Did you even read what Luthier wrote in this very thread this very day?

Ok fair enough.. But most days i don't have the TIME to go trolling through countless pages of posts to look at everything. That post WAS from the man himself, either amend it to the 1st page or create a new thread so peeps can see. What HE says adds perspective indeed. Fair enough i stand corrected for the most part.

Regards

[6BL Bird-Dog]

Glad to see it officialy announced BOM will be able to be merged with CLoD.
I do find it dissapointing that no attention is being paid to the Coop Gui situation when basically all that is required is for the host to be able launch the mission when he has seen that all players are ready and can boot any time wasters that turn up.Other than that a final score page at mission end.
There are plenty of squads who run online wars waiting for this who have bought CLod & if it could be implemented in BoM and backward compatible with CLod I am sure it would secure much higher sales than without it.
Many put a lot of time and research into their Coops ,I have getting on for 4000 online Missions ,most of which wrote by the communiy & a lot could be concidered as historical online campaigns for Il2.

I would have liked to have seen a detailed manual on mission building with scripts for copying was to be added as it could be isued with BoM too.

To not have offline campaigns as in iL2 will be a big mistake as there are many offlinegamers in the comunity ,in the past it kept me busy for two and a half years living in the "Campo"whilst in Spain,no phone or internet I colected new ones when going to a big town that had an internet Cafe

I canot agree seven months unpaid work has been done without payment of wadges since the games release as it is not realy a true statement .
When the game was released it was in such an unfinished state & you have had to take that time trying to fix it , it still will not run as it was supposed to out of the Box.
We have actualy paid in advance for this work and on my part I beleve there were probably many reasons for what has happened than the comunity is aware of.
I shall look foreward to the next patch and hope that the up-coming holidays will give you all a well earned rest.
Anyhow .
Seasons Greetings to All

[Pluto]

Originally Posted by luthier

Hey folks,

I see that these answers led some folks here, and most of the folks on my favorite sukhoi.ru, to read between the lines and see my answers to specific questions as indications of larger-scale abandonment of the project.

That's not the case at all.

I answered specific questions and didn't touch on the larger effort. It remains the same. Sped up graphics, launcher errors, improved FM, etc, all of that is in progress as previously stated.

We are trying to pull off a very difficult balancing act with developing a new game and supporting an old one at the same time. Pretty much no one does that. Most large developers simply release games, support them for a month at the most, and then switch to new paid content regardless of the state of the game. We are however trying not only to patch up major issues, we're working on improving things that generally work - and we're doing that for free seven months after release. We are doing that by trying to parallel tasks as much as possible and improving CoD while developing a sequel.

That is however simply not possible with some features. In some cases that's a question of limited resources. We cannot make a new flyable for CoD because that means one less flyable for the sequel. With other tasks it's simply a matter of time. Some of the changes we're making are so sweeping, they're scheduled to be completed very close to the sequel's ship date. The animation for example is such a huge task with so many facets that we can't just take it, turn it into a half a gig patch, and release it for CoD a month before the release of the sequel.

And to make sure to drive my main point across. We are still working on improving CoD. No one's abandoned it. There will be patches. My answers about things in the sequel were meant for those specific features. Please don't try to read between the lines!

... hmm, ok, that sounds already much better, thanks, ...

[Attila]

All I want to know is: when will the patch comes out?
It must be possible to give us a date of release! There must be a deadline for the programmers! Since the last patch i can´t fly online for more than half an hour without a launchercrash!

(and i´m sure it´s not a problem of my PC or CPU or anything else!)

[Flanker35M]

S!

Attila..it was said that POSSIBLY before end of this year a BETA, but more surely next year. As of the final, we can only guess but I would think that if a beta goes well and feedback does not reveal anything big the final would come out soon after...but again best is just to wait and see. IT comes when ready..

[klem]

Originally Posted by Pudfark

Maskirovka

Translation? For me and the moderators?

[David198502]

hey luthier!
so you have already a schedule for the release of BOM?
can we have a rough estimation when that will be?i mean will it take 1 or 6 years?

[addman]

Hey luthier! Haven't you guys had discussions about DLC? Personally I wouldn't mind paying for quality content, although I think bug-fixing patches should be free. Cheers for the clarifications! Oh! So we can expect BoM maybe before summer 2012?