Il-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs Of Dover BETA Patch v 1.03.15527

[Arklight]

Originally Posted by undpilot87

I don't pretend to know everything but being an experienced pilot I do know what is realistic in the cockpit. Sun visors are essential as sunglasses don't always help that much. There are many times where I've had on a pair of sunglasses and still needed the visor. When looking towards the sun it makes it very hard to see just about anything including the instruments.

I posted that because I find it annoying that people are saying that this effect is unrealistic when they have never set foot in a cockpit. If I went around talking like a knew a lot about engineering when I have no experience or education in engineering I would expect that people would refer to me as an idiot.

Some people in these forums really need to stop acting like know-it-alls and concern themselves with something within their intellectual capacity.

Oh and btw, putting your hand up to block the sun, making everything clear again, really does work like it does in the game. Go get some flight lessons and experience it for yourself. Until then please stop spreading disinformation.

I was flying a C172 one time in Northern CA coming back from a cross-country, and the sun was so bad I had trouble seeing the airport in front of us a few miles out, and I had sunglasses on.

Those who think the sun can't completely blind you have never been completely blinded by it. How's that for thought provoking? lol

[Nicolo]

Originally Posted by undpilot87

I don't pretend to know everything but being an experienced pilot I do know what is realistic in the cockpit. Sun visors are essential as sunglasses don't always help that much. There are many times where I've had on a pair of sunglasses and still needed the visor. When looking towards the sun it makes it very hard to see just about anything including the instruments.

I posted that because I find it annoying that people are saying that this effect is unrealistic when they have never set foot in a cockpit. If I went around talking like a knew a lot about engineering when I have no experience or education in engineering I would expect that people would refer to me as an idiot.

Some people in these forums really need to stop acting like know-it-alls and concern themselves with something within their intellectual capacity.

Oh and btw, putting your hand up to block the sun, making everything clear again, really does work like it does in the game. Go get some flight lessons and experience it for yourself. Until then please stop spreading disinformation.

Being an experienced pilot doesn't make you a person who understands light more then any user here, even the "ignorants". If the discussion was about FM, your opinion would be very respected, but that's not the case here.

If some guy in the forum drives to west, coming home from work everyday, getting blind by the sun, he has some experience, but not enough to say "I know this. You are all ignorants."

I've seen a good post about this subject from a forum user who works as a designer or artist, can't remember now...I'm an industrial designer and for sure there are others here who at least paint or take pictures just for a hobby and the opinion of any of us about how the sun should look like has more weight then yours.

The last book I took about this subject, "Color and Light", by James Gurney, has a whole chapter about atmospheric effects, it's complex. You probably could not say what colors you see in the sky, sometimes I can't too, and I have some years in painting.

I mean no disrespect, and it's not just to you undpilot87 but the forum has some posts on this subject that seem very arrogant and agressive.

What I understand from the comments criticizing the sun in the beta patch, is that it's not blinding, there's no glare, but a white fade all over the screen.
About covering the sun with a hand, the guy was joking, you don't have a hand in game, I keep moving my head to cover the sun with the canopy's bars in the hurricane.

[diveplane]

[QUOTE=luthier;331837]It's here! Here's the readme:

BETA NOTE

* SOUND: Still working on the content for the new engine....

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congrats dev team on the sound engine and samples this is what the community wanted , few more tweaks for the merlin ,... got it.

also more heavy sounds for the bombers. but its finally heading in the right direction fantastic.