NEW AND INTERESTING IDEAS FOR Birds of Steel Developers

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[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by perunasalaatti

Good idea but I in SIM mode airelon and elevator sensitivity should be always at max or sensitivity option completely off

Thats ok. But only if you have the ability to fully customise the stick setings such as dead zone and axis range/shape. Actualy your comment comes across as rather elitest.

Sensitivity has nothing to do with skill, its not a difficulty setting, its a controller seting. Someone playing BoP with a long flightstick might easily be able to fly with full sens because the turning sweet spot on the stick for each plane might be as much as an inch in movement making it easy to hold in that position. Compare that to someone using a joypad and a very short stick, the sweet spot is a little as 1 or 2 mm of movement, 1 mm to far an you stall and spin and this accuracy from just one thumb. No warning. 1 twich and... OH DEAR.

BoS definately needs stall identifiers like airframe shake, shuddering sfx and some FFB.

[MACADEMIC]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

Thats ok. But only if you have the ability to fully customise the stick setings such as dead zone and axis range/shape. Actualy your comment comes across as rather elitest.

Sensitivity has nothing to do with skill, its not a difficulty setting, its a controller seting. Someone playing BoP with a long flightstick might easily be able to fly with full sens because the turning sweet spot on the stick for each plane might be as much as an inch in movement making it easy to hold in that position. Compare that to someone using a joypad and a very short stick, the sweet spot is a little as 1 or 2 mm of movement, 1 mm to far an you stall and spin and this accuracy from just one thumb. No warning. 1 twich and... OH DEAR.

BoS definately needs stall identifiers like airframe shake, shuddering sfx and some FFB.

Agree with you RP that the length of your joystick/flightstick would make a difference, but disagree that it has nothing to do with skill. I know a few who fly the P-51D5 in full sensitivity using a DualShock gamepad, and it's working fine (I'm one of those). It's an extra challenge to know how far you can take the airplane without stalling.

But I agree with you unreservedly that full customisation for all should be standard (which we'll see in BoS - Anton has confirmed this on the devs forum), and that a stall buffet would be a good thing to have. Although I must say that with custom control on the PS3, an approaching accellerated stall can be quite well recognized and countered as it is, in full sensitivity.

MAC

[Shadowcorp]

Originally Posted by perunasalaatti

True but when maximum realism is wanted all sensitivity "aids" should be off because every plane has certain roll-, turn rate and handling behavior. It is true that it is controller setting but i see it also as a skill setting. When everybody has the same starting point it becomes a skill factor.



+1
Sound effects works well (as in il2:1946)

I'm sorry but thats too harsh a learning curve, what you say is fine for sim players, but realistic players wouldn't find it acceptable; i think i'm justified in saying. As people have already said gaijin shouldn't be alienating any part of their demographic just to please one proportion.

[winny]

Originally Posted by perunasalaatti

... It is true that it is controller setting but i see it also as a skill setting. When everybody has the same starting point it becomes a skill factor.

The problem is that not everyone is starting from the same point, I use a stick all of the time. It's not the same for me as it is for someone using a PS3 controller. Full sensitivity + stick = over correction central.


A quick point about connection issues - Connection is king in this game. (I have experience of this)

I was good at BoP (last year) on a 8mb connection then I moved house. Had a much poorer internet connection at the new place (3mb download)

All of a sudden I found I couldn't hit anything unless I was right on top of them (even then my bullets seemed to miss when I thought they should be hitting).

2 months ago I got fibre optic - 30mb D/L - 10 mb U/L and surprise surprise, I can now 'explode' people much easier.

I had suspicions that it was lag that made me unable to shoot straight, now I'm sure it is.