cheats allready

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

The only reason things are the way you describe them is that nobody has the money to fund a class action lawsuit to enforce what is actually state consumer law in many countries and relegates all EULAs to junk.

I'm not being aggressive against you, but the law where i live states that what you say should not be applicable to me.

It depends on the terms and conditions you've agreed to. Have you read all the T&C of Steam and Ubisoft for the game? If the terms say that you are paying for a license to use the game, and you lose the right if you modify the game, then why are you so sure that law where you are is different?

[snwkill]

I agree with you about having admins do the banning. But I am guessing cheating really wont be a problem in this game. Simmers have a different attitude than the average (other COD game) type person. I would suspect that they would get very bored after awhile, and even then if they took enough time to learn how to get the damn thing off the deck they would be more intrigued to be better.

[kimosabi]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

As much as i dislike cheating, this is a perfect example of defeatist consumer attitude. The only reason things are the way you describe them is that nobody has the money to fund a class action lawsuit to enforce what is actually state consumer law in many countries and relegates all EULAs to junk.

I'm not being aggressive against you, but the law where i live states that what you say should not be applicable to me.

Ban the cheaters from multiplayer sure, but not letting anyone use software they paid for is plain and simple rubbish in my humble opinion. According to Extreme_One it works like this, so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

In any case, i prefer the IL2 way where banning cheaters was enforced by server admins. This way there's less chance of accidental bans or bans to people who just mod harmless parts of the game. Sure, it's more effort and it doesn't completely shield you from cheaters, but i prefer to be shot down by a UFO a couple of times per month and submit a track to the server admin so that they can ban the cheater than accidentally lose access to multiplayer and being unable to do anything about it for the duration of the sim's life

All this stuff about "selling a service that we can partially or entirely terminate at our own discretion with no warning and no refund" is plain and utter crap. If they were selling a service they would send me a printed manual or a replacement installation disc if i ever lost my original one. Good luck with that.
What they do is sell a physical product and then interpret parts of it as a service so that they can't be held accountable for anything.

Get your priorities straight. Im saying like it is and it is just a game. Therefore I have no problems paying for the right to use the game instead of, wow, OWNING it and the rights to use it any way I want. Yeah, owning a computer game is just so important to you hippies isnt it....

Your general judgment of people based on renting a computer game is just pathetic. Get out of your sofa and do something you forum jockey, if it really is that important to you. BTW, I am being aggressive against you. No need to cowardly disguise anything here.

[123-Wulf-123]

Originally Posted by jt_medina

Why could someone enjoy cheating? where is the challenge?

They're not interested in the actual cheating, just interested in proving they can hack the game, in order to prove to themselves that they are extremely clever, and to score points against the developers in their own (twisted) little minds.

[palker4]

If he did that online and cheat protection was on and working he can expect VAC BAN on his account in following weeks. That will prevent him from joing any multiplayer game from that account.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by palker4

If he did that online and cheat protection was on and working he can expect VAC BAN on his account in following weeks. That will prevent him from joing any multiplayer game from that account.

Haha. This is actually great. All this little wankers that were hacking away this last few weeks, thinking COD is a village without dogs, will get a nice surprise, in a few weeks.

Cool.

[CBA_Bludawg]

from the vid it looks like he got into the plane files and did some tweaking with cheat engine and if he had this running in the back ground while online in multi player yes hes been flagged for sure and will get the bann hammer. Cheat engine is very well known with hardcore hackers (homefront, blackops and tons more). i recall back in the day of CFS when they would get in with a modded plane and have like 100 guns and rip ya apart in a split second and you could never shoot them down

[Raggz]

The use the same way as MS uses to ban hacked xboxes. They gather data ,flag the users and then ban them in waves. And Steams policy is the same. You will never get the account re-opened no matter how high you cry or whatever threats you can come up with. Not as long as you did cheat or use any mods in multi-player!
Better think twice before doing any of these things unless you don't care.

[Talon89]

Actually, we have no idea how effective the "anti-cheat" stuff is, because no one has been banned yet.

Hopefully, it's extremely effective... time will tell. The wiki says that this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...9a/Mathack.jpg hack is not detectable by it, which makes me wonder about the effectiveness.

Originally Posted by Raggz

The use the same way as MS uses to ban hacked xboxes. They gather data ,flag the users and then ban them in waves. And Steams policy is the same. You will never get the account re-opened no matter how high you cry or whatever threats you can come up with. Not as long as you did cheat or use any mods in multi-player!
Better think twice before doing any of these things unless you don't care.

But how probable is it to be banned by mistake? And what can one do?