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Old 09-28-2010, 10:18 PM
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Also, i have another question. I have an i7 920 with the stock cooler, but i got it somewhat early (April 2009). I don't know if it's one of the D0 stepping chips that overclock better, or one of the older chips where you need to be a bit more careful.

Can i see that from the BIOS or a diagnostic tool, or do i need to open the case,
downlaod teh program CPU-Z..
http://www.filehippo.com/download_cp...6f39f3b0275a1/

there install will tell you wither CO or DO revision... CO OC too it just takes more power .. ie get hotter so with stock cooler wont go as far.. DO should gt to 3.4 on stock volts easily.. i have mine at 3.8 on stock volts, however i have a powerful air cooler
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:25 PM
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I have never overclocked any of my PCs, but since i7 920 is considered so reliable i might give it a go. I have the stock cooler, an Asus P6T Deluxe V2 motherboard and a Heroichi Cougar 700W PSU. You think i could go to 3.4Ghz without any real problems?
Asus P6T Rev V2.. ONE OF THE BEST boards to OC I7.. in fact i have a comp with the same board and an I7 i can easily show you how to do it

your PSU although called "cougar" is really a re-branded HEC PSU, HEC makes good PSUs not the best but especially for not getting to wild with the OC i dont forsee any problems
yeah everything loos great the one thing that need to know what typr of case.. IE how man fans.. unfortunate the intel stock cooler just blows hot air around in case so id recommend at least 2 big or three small fans, either way.. you should be able to hit 3.4 without adjusting volts and keep temps low.. but if you get yourself a 60-80 dollar air cooler youll get to 4.2 ill bet ((DO) maybe 3.8 CO)
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:27 PM
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I saw sandy bridge OC'd to 4,9GHz on air. If that costs 300$ extra I don't really care and I'd be interested to see some sources behind that claim.
Intel press release, the new sandybridge will have special UNLOCKED revisions, normal revisions wont OC, locked on chip, intel saw all the 920 OC and realized how much moeny were loosing decided to put a stop to it. but next amd revision will have unlocked cores.. i own ALOT of amd stock right now haha
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:45 AM
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Thanks for the tips so far.

After running CPU-Z it turns out my CPU is a C0/C1 revision, so i can't go that high
The case is not anything spectacular but it's roomy and has space for a couple of extra fans, so i think that i could create some proper air circulation if i wanted to overclock.

The good thing is that even this way, it looks like i can safely get it over 3Ghz without spending too much. I don't think i'd run it as high as 4Ghz even if i had a D0 CPU. We have really hot summers where i live and the PC is in a small room without air-conditioning, if the PC doesn't fry during the summer i will from all the heat build up
I think 3.5Ghz would be good enough for me.

I guess that i could spend 100 Euros on an aftermarket cooler and 1-2 case fans and go for it if SoW happens to give me trouble. On the other hand, i could maybe sell my C0 revision CPU and get a D0 one
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:41 AM
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Intel press release, the new sandybridge will have special UNLOCKED revisions, normal revisions wont OC, locked on chip, intel saw all the 920 OC and realized how much moeny were loosing decided to put a stop to it. but next amd revision will have unlocked cores.. i own ALOT of amd stock right now haha
I tried to google for press releases on the subject but could not find anything with info about prices. I found that H67 has locked multipliers for frequency but that's about it. Can you send me a link.. especially if it has more proce details.

Any thoughts on the GPU / CPU split of SOW or are we still on guessing game with no clues from Oleg about that?

Edit: Did the techpowerup guy really get banned or is that just some witty tweak in the profile?
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:51 AM
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In April 2009 i got an i7 920 with 3GB of RAM, an Ati 4870 1GB and a 1.5TB 7200RPM seagate hard disk. A couple of months later i replaced my 17" CRT monitor and got a 16:10 22" dell with an IPS panel for best viewing angles and color fidelity.
very nice!! haha listen to this guy here, if you want new monitor and want great viewing and no glare get IPS panelIPS panelIPS panelIPS panelIPS panelIPS panel!!! +100000 i have 7 of them.. sooo awseome!!!!!
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:56 AM
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yes, i go along with Spinner - one step down from the top for value!
yes will save money good advice, also people GPU are so easy to upgrade, its just plug wipe old drivers and install new drivers just must check power usage and required cables from PSU, and ventilation in case

if u cant afford good GPU its the preferred part of your system to ' save for later' if your newb.. just because so easy to upgrade dont have to worry about new sockets and disassembling stuff ect.. get the cheaper, when you can afford it sell old one on ebay and buy the new GPU

and yes directx 11 is good, not necessary.. but if your upgrading youd be pretty foolish to even consider a GPU without it, lots of great great low end choices even in DX11 liek amd 6500 or 6600 or 6700, even though thier new performance for price in most cases even matches last gen,
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:42 AM
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S!

I have been upgrading for just the shits and giggles, not really following any game or something. If I can and want to try out something then I do it. But for SoW I have a decent system I guess, as all other games I play (RoF, IL-2, Dawn of War II, EVE Online etc.) run smoothly at 1920x1200 with most/all maxed out.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition (at stock speeds)
GPU: MSI n480GTX 1.5Gb (optionally AMD 5870HD 1Gb)
RAM: 2 x 4Gb 1333MHz DDR3
Mobo: AsRock 890FX Deluxe3
PSU: Corsair 650W
Screen: BenQ W2400D 24" 16:10 screen
Case: Antec NineHundred
OS: Windows7 Home Premium 64-bit

Possibly next upgrade will be SSD drive(s) when/if their prices drop a bit, hideously expensive at the moment, at least here
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:11 AM
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My Current liquid Cooled Rig:

Mobo: Asus Striker Extreme Rampage 11
Ram: Corsair Memory XMS3 Classic 6GB DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600)
CPU: Intel Core i7 930 (Overclocked to 4.2Ghz)
GPU's: 2 X Geforce GTX285 in SLI
PSU: Coolermaster Real Power 850 W Power Supply (Modular)
Case: Coolermaster RC-1100 V2 Black Tower Computer Case
Radiator: XSPC RX360 Black High Performance Radiator
CPU Block: APOGEEXT - Swiftech Apogee XT CPU Block
Pump: Laing DDC Pro Pump with XSPC V3 Acrylic Top
Res: EK-Multioption RES X2 - 150 Advanced Capacity 160 ml
Hard Disk: 2 X 1.5TB Western Digital SATA 3Gb/s, 7200+rpm, 64MB Cache
DVDR: 2 X Sony DRU-870s
Monitor: 27" Dell Ultrasharp Widescreen LCD, IPS panel

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Old 09-28-2010, 02:20 PM
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OK guys.. had to register just to correct all the foolishness going on



wrong, you have an intel motherboard for the last 5 years intel motherboards have supported scaling in ram, yes you can run 4 sticks of 1 gig DDR3 and still have it in triple channel, or 5 sticks even, you will see a reduction in performance... (of .01%) in other words the loss in performance is so minuscule its not even measurable, if you want 4 gigs just buy another stick and plop it in, i see this posted ALLLLL the time its highly annoying it s like the greatest urban legend of RAM.. however if you have an AMD board then you must do it the way you said
Well, thanks for the correction

So, how does it work? If i use 4x1Gb sticks, the 3 of them work in tripple channel and the last one works "on its own"? Or does it somehow "divide" the performance gains from the tripple channel sticks and have all four of them running at an in-between speed?

Also, i have another question. I have an i7 920 with the stock cooler, but i got it somewhat early (April 2009). I don't know if it's one of the D0 stepping chips that overclock better, or one of the older chips where you need to be a bit more careful.

Can i see that from the BIOS or a diagnostic tool, or do i need to open the case, disassemble the cooler and look at the actual CPU to see if anything is written on it?

I have never overclocked any of my PCs, but since i7 920 is considered so reliable i might give it a go. I have the stock cooler, an Asus P6T Deluxe V2 motherboard and a Heroichi Cougar 700W PSU. You think i could go to 3.4Ghz without any real problems?
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