Long time lurker, first time poster

[VectorForFood]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Errm...I for one don't care on all three counts.

Wow, an E-thug on a gamers forum...

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by VectorForFood

Wow, an E-thug on a gamers forum...

Sorry Vector, I didn't mean to insult you personally, it's just that I get a bit tired with these kind of debates.
It'll be here when it's here, and if it's not we can do something else.
I hope it won't be a case of 'the chase is better than the catch' when it does arrive, but I somehow doubt it.
Offensive thuggishness humbly retracted.

[IceFire]

When Oleg says soon I'm figuring sometime maybe on the outside of 6 months which is relatively soon on the whole. Once he gets to a point there will hopefully be a marketing machine getting turned on and we'll see official logos, box art, promo trailers, videos, an official website, etc.

No illusions here but I do have an understanding (albeit in my limited way) on what development is like and the mammoth task that Oleg set out for. Storm of War isn't just a game... it really is a foundation. We could see a full WWII combined arms simulator in maybe 5 years time based on the same engine. That is my anticipation. So I can forgive a protracted development period.

[Chivas]

I doubt very much that we will see a combined armed forces sim in 5 years as the developers will not be even close to developing all the air combat theaters. That said you could see a gradual increase in controlable vehicles etc as the SOW series progresses in the next 10 to 15 years which could lead to a complete combined forces sim. With inclusion of modders early in the SOW series we should see some amazing things as long as there is very good quality control.

[kendo65]

Oleg:

"This now will depending of publisher... and our fast woks over the bugs.
Bugs are present. The product is probably the most serious in industry in programming of features, internals, etc...
So I can't tell exact date right now. But we are close, very close in our works of final release version... We need to polish all the coming in final release features. I personally wouldn't release the product that have serious bugs that was known."

This is what we have folks. Oleg nailed it down regarding exactly where in the development cycle they are.

Unfortunately, he left a big enough ? about the time needed for bug-fixing, 'polishing', and publisher issues that no-one has felt compelled to diverge from their previous positions.

The pessimists are still pessimistic and vice versa. The argument goes on.

As a paid up member of the optimist camp, my first reaction to the posting on Friday was to expect that we'd have it for Christmas. I would still ask the pessimists to ponder on that quote:

"we are close, very close in our works of final release version..."

but I know what their answer will be.

I'm with Chivas regarding advertising / lead time etc. I don't think it will need 6 months.

But, like I said before this is all guesswork. We're all whistling in the dark and picking the bits of info that confirm our own prejudices.