Have to start new AP game for the Orcs campaign? RU Kidding Me?!?

[brettjv]

Aesir, I am able to play my old AP saves by using the AP option in the CW exe. Haven't tried clicking AP in my steam list to see if the original app still works ... your posts here and on steam forums have scared me off of trying

Originally Posted by vmxa

Well nearly every strat game I ever bought that added changes to the game broke the prior saves and certainly a new addition/expansion would.

Several times for patches alone in civ III. Only way to make them compat is not not change anythig that is keep in the save. That would be a bug fixes at best.

Well, I'm not a big strat game player, but I know off the top of my head that the Chaos Rising stand-alone expansion allowed you to use your DoW II save game.

And like I said before ... TQ:Immortal Throne was a MAJOR expansion that changed the game pretty significantly ... but didn't break saves.

To me it just doesn't make sense to break save games unless the expansion is legitimately making a huge change in the core game. Now, I haven't played (and may never, now) but from looking at the OotM change list in the manual, I'm just not seeing anything there that qualifies as remotely huge in my book that couldn't have been worked around.

And if they couldn't, they should've told us up front.

[Aesir]

Originally Posted by brettjv

Aesir, I am able to play my old AP saves by using the AP option in the CW exe. Haven't tried clicking AP in my steam list to see if the original app still works ... your posts here and on steam forums have scared me off of trying

Thanks for the info. The failure to load in my case may have been in-between installs, when my install folder had both ap and cw content in it.

[grjohnson]

Even the old SSI games of the 90's and old Sierra's Games (Hero's Quest anyone), allowed you to transfer characters from one game to another...
Very disappointing... wish I'd known that before purchasing also.

[Mandea]

Why don't you finish AP and then play Orcs on The March? AP still makes sense and so does OOTM. I finished AP 10 times already and I think I'll finish Crossworld more times. Maybe you don't like the changes in OOTM and still want to play AP.

[Zechnophobe]

You listed a bunch of action/adventure games (AKA, diablo clones), which simply operate under totally different types of rules than a game like this. Yeah, it'd be cool if you could get your save games updated, but that would require some pretty weird programming to extend off what they currently have.

When you create a new game, ALL of the content of the game is generated at once, including which random armies exist, what lewt in what location, how much in the little piles of gold, and which leadership flags there are. All of it.

I can completely understand that with that as a basis, it'd be pretty darn hard to just smush more stuff in there.

[grjohnson]

Is there going to be other "add on's" after Crossworlds....??? Am I going to have to restart AGAIN if there's is?

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by grjohnson

Is there going to be other "add on's" after Crossworlds....??? Am I going to have to restart AGAIN if there's is?

Crossworlds came out about a year after Armored Princess. Do you really think you'll be playing the same game a year from now?

[vicheron]

I don't know why the new content is so incompatible with the old stuff. There are plenty of games with DLC's that add new content. Look at Fallout 3 for example. It had DLC's that added new items, new perks, higher level cap, etc.

[DGDobrev]

After I played OOTM for a while, I can see why.

Since the shops are populated by troops, items and spells from the get-go (game start), I see no way to add some new in there through the save. Many games with DLC do not have the randomness this game provides, or they have a repetitive randomness (each time you visit a shop, it has different stuff), which would allow for DLC packs to be implemented with new items.

There is also the matter of overall runes received throughout the game and the lack of ability to re-spec. If they add more skills but the rune amount remains the same, one would feel at a strong disadvantage. Even if there is no level cap in KBCW (there wasn't one in KBAP either), the reduced amount of runes by 50% will make it very hard to obtain one or all of the newly added skills.

Also, if you already took all the maps, I'm not sure the game can just generate one somewhere, somehow, to get you to the new area.

[indio68]

Hi,
i'm Italian and i bought all KB games, but i bought the wonderful FX Interactive version , that are subtitled in italian...now i think Crossworld will not be translated, so i ask you: if i Buy a steam version (english only if i rememebr correct) of crossworld ..can i play it having my Armored princess FX version installed on my pc?
sry bad english....
Thanks