what is the offical name of this new sim?

Originally Posted by zapatista

minor correction, just read the sequence of posts in this thread again, tree said "a year" initially, at which point he got called on it to put his money where his mouth was. thats when he rapidly started back pedaling to reduce the demarcation line. and just to clarify what some people take objection to with tree's deliberate constant negative postings about this project, many of which are directly insulting to the creators of this game, and on who's good graces we get gradual updates on their work (which they have no obligation to do, and it isnt "commercially" needed for them), this is the contrast in tree's behaviour:

1) a recent post of his in this same forum commenting on a single short glimpse of another flightsim product (which previously under great fanfare was dismantled and believed to be dead forever by microsoft)

suddenly the world is all sunshine and roses, one little short clip is now called a "marketing trail" by tree and this magically means the game release is just around the corner, and tree is all chuffed with himself and giving himself a golden shower in great delight

2) but when a NEW flightsim enthusiast joins this board with interest in the upcoming project (who most likely will then disappear taking with him the brief snips of info gleaned here to his cluster of friends and start a new batch of rumours) we predictably get tree's negative destructive one sided banter giving misinformation, except this time he slightly packages his turd with a little bow to pretend he is being all nice and helpful

wow now suddenly its all doom and gloom, as if there is no release date being hard worked for and aimed at on oleg's side, no regular weekly information updates for about a year, no signs of progress at all, no response and modifications by oleg based on fanbase feedback of his progress, etc.. so tree got called on it, at which point he started with his obscenities and personal insults (which there hadnt been in this thread so far), labeling anybody that had anything positive to say about BoB with expletives. he then put his foot in it further by saying it would be "a year" before release (which is plainly absurd, unless there is some major disaster on oleg's side), so i nailed tree down on it to make it a bet on the price of the game itself (easy enuf to do, either person can buy it online when released and have it sent to the other).

predictably, and based on the previous character flaws he had been so consistently displaying here, tree then rapidly started backtracking and trying to squirm out of it, for which he now got a long deserved medal of the avian type

the context of this all is that whatever delay's oleg is experiencing in the last yrs, which are not deliberate or by his neglect , his intention all along being to make the best possible sim he can given the resources he has to work with. if anything, his decision to not further evolve the il2 game engine and stretch it further, but make a completely different product "from the ground up" will be to all our benefit in the end, as most of us will very soon realize. so to constantly have this "slighted bride" behavior from tree is irrational, say it once that you are disappointed sure, but to CONSTANTLY do so for several yrs in most of the flightsim forums is just infantile (hence he gets treated as such, since he seems to only be able to communicate at that level), and for him to do so here so consistently and deliberately is plain offensive and rude to the creators

I think im iritating her a bit.

[zapatista]

i am not surprised you're squirming and backtracking, you havnt shown much character so far

sadly for you its an easy to follow record here, you are the one that put up the initial date, not me, i just called you on it. simple and easy, just reread the posts in this thread.

and adding personal insults in an attempt to change the topic is not surprising from you either

i hereby award you "The Order of the White Feather", it is well deserved for your consistent and repeated lack of showing any sign of moral fiber



anytime you feel a little spark of personal dignity returning, just come back here i'll be ready to follow up up on the bet, failing that no need to keep slithering with an attempt at light banter

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

lol, heres the bet take it or leave it, march 2011 release date, Ive quoted this date many many times, and you have constantly refuted any date other than a release this year. Now if the busiest of all Oleg's butthole cleanser's will not take a bet for march next year then what does that tell the rest of us.

There's a lot of British online betting companies where you can bet on whatever you like - tree; start a new one on the release of SoW, I'm in.

[nearmiss]

Cool it or the thread will be locked

Swiss your last post has profanity poked into an 8 letter word...edit it.

Put someone on your ignore list ...you'd be surprised how nice it gets around here.

[BadAim]

For all of Tree's droning, at least he is for the most part nice to people, perhaps a bit more patience is in order, as a matter of fact, when someone mentioned that it was getting a bit much in a polite manner, he actually backed of a bit. That's what reasonable people do.

I'm only saying that I don't think the original response was called for, especially in this thread, and there was certainly no reason to have escalated it so. I'm not sure where you're from Zap, but accusing a man of having a lack of moral fiber over a petty argument is just over the top, at least where I come from.

[major_setback]

Worm of Store.