Friday 2010-06-04 Dev. update and Discussion Thread

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

I think StarForce ProActive (such as seen in DCS: Black Shark and Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 2) is the way to go.

It is easy to use, doesn't install any driver and works with activation. Once you type the activation key, it removes itself from the computer. Then it's just having fun with your brand-new game without worrying with any DRM.

I've never seen any problems related to that - it works for both sides: makes a pirate's life harder without bothering the costumers.

I can't see why it shouldn't be used.

Because it's starforce and regardless of how harmless it is in it's current form people do not easily forget the way the company treated people, some will refuse to buy on principle alone.

You'll never make everybody happy.

Used to make me mad seeing all the IL2 pirates in Hyperlobby, if you can afford a pc to play BoB on you can afford to buy BoB, but we all know that many will pirate it and I'd dearly like to see the community shun those chose to deny Oleg and crew from their hard earned cut.

[ECV56_Guevara]

Originally Posted by csThor

Honestly: No game developer or publisher decides when my own PC has to be online. I may grant them the right to check the validity of my copy after installing it (or maybe once a month, after asking me for my permission to do so), but I will absolutely not tolerate a game which tries to force me to stay connected to some online server all the time. Because that, in my opinion, is the stealthy attempt to introduce pay-to-play even for offline games and I will most certainly not stuff my hard-earned € down some publisher's throat (not to mention that the marketing department would surely like to bombard me with tailor-made spam mails).

If SoW follows this trend then I have to bear the pain and not purchase it for I absolutely refuse to sign away my own rights as customer and PC admin.

+1
Remember RoF and SH5.

[F16_Petter]

Here is my suggestion for future

The cockpit screenshots reveal all panels to be quite worn.
Paint chips, scratches etc.. it looks cool. but.. it seems as if they were modelled and painted to resemble an aircraft that has been in service for a long time or rough treatment.

(perhaps modelled from a WWII survivour in a museum?)

I dont have any accurate data, but someone should probaly know how many logged flighthours the average Bf109 in BoB had.
From factory to frontline to end of service or written off/destroyed.

I mean not ALL planes would have looked this way.. some planes must have been "all brand new" considering the rate of how many planes were produced/delivered..

But for the future.... It would be AWESOME if the cockpit too would "degrade" just as the aircraft skins do. Entering a cockpit in the game would perhaps have two or three versions of "wear". It would be really nice for the immersion factor... because the cockpit is the "office" of a pilot. (And not all offices look the same.)


In an online enviroment I can just picture the following scenario when two squadmates enter the cockpit just after game loaded:

Pilot 1: "Oh no...."

Pilot 2: "What?? whats wrong..?"

Pilot 1: "Im in #46, "Old betty".. damn.. this plane needs some paint!!!!!

Pilot 2: "Yeah.. sure.. like some paint is gonna improve your shooting skills.."

Pilot 1: "Oh shut up!"



Maybe a feature for your next project Oleg?

[LukeFF]

Other than the data plate above the altimeter, I don't think the cockpit looks overly worn for an airplane in front line use. Anyone who's been in the military for any length of time knows that military equipment doesn't stay unscratched/not scuffed up for very long.

[engarde]

have to agree on this one, im in a government job and the kit we sign out, that isnt personal issue, is indeed worn and very well used.

frankly, shiny new kit is rare.

scratched, worn tired looking stuff is very familiar.

[ECV56_Lancelot]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Other than the data plate above the altimeter, I don't think the cockpit looks overly worn for an airplane in front line use. Anyone who's been in the military for any length of time knows that military equipment doesn't stay unscratched/not scuffed up for very long.

Quite true!. As a kid i had the chance to see shining new light tanks and vehicles just arrived, and six months laters they look like they were used for years.
Consideraing that lots of german planes, if not the majority, most likely were used on the Battle of France campaign, and probably also in Polonia campaign, i would bet that most of tha aircraft would look very worn. The same with hurricanes. Spitfires might be an exception that there were more new units, but after a month of use, on combat conditions, the "new look" would be long gone.

[arjisme]

Originally Posted by csThor

Honestly: No game developer or publisher decides when my own PC has to be online. I may grant them the right to check the validity of my copy after installing it (or maybe once a month, after asking me for my permission to do so), but I will absolutely not tolerate a game which tries to force me to stay connected to some online server all the time. Because that, in my opinion, is the stealthy attempt to introduce pay-to-play even for offline games and I will most certainly not stuff my hard-earned € down some publisher's throat (not to mention that the marketing department would surely like to bombard me with tailor-made spam mails).

If SoW follows this trend then I have to bear the pain and not purchase it for I absolutely refuse to sign away my own rights as customer and PC admin.

+1. I really am looking forward to SoW, but will not buy it if it has DRM that requires I be online to play. I don't expect it will, but chimed in just to be sure my smallish vote is heard.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Well I will buy it, DRM or not. Oleg deserves sales for this incredible work, independently from my opinion about DRM. I will support him anyway.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by arjisme

+1. I really am looking forward to SoW, but will not buy it if it has DRM that requires I be online to play. I don't expect it will, but chimed in just to be sure my smallish vote is heard.

Well, I only play online - I mean, I couldn't care less.

Eventhough I don't like this kind of DRM

[Tempest123]

Yes, I agree 100%, if I pay money for a product I expect to be able to use it when, where and how I want, without restrictions, I have enough trouble with Itunes proprietary files. If the publisher requires me to be online I will not buy it, period. They get the unrestricted use of my hard earned income, so I should get the unlimited use of their product. Reeeeaallly hope SoW does not go down this road.

Originally Posted by csThor

Honestly: No game developer or publisher decides when my own PC has to be online. I may grant them the right to check the validity of my copy after installing it (or maybe once a month, after asking me for my permission to do so), but I will absolutely not tolerate a game which tries to force me to stay connected to some online server all the time. Because that, in my opinion, is the stealthy attempt to introduce pay-to-play even for offline games and I will most certainly not stuff my hard-earned € down some publisher's throat (not to mention that the marketing department would surely like to bombard me with tailor-made spam mails).

If SoW follows this trend then I have to bear the pain and not purchase it for I absolutely refuse to sign away my own rights as customer and PC admin.