Press Ministry Requests $17M for 1C's Patriotic Computer Game

[Feuerfalke]

All fronts would.

[katdogfizzow]

I must say this game has me more interested in history than ever before. After flying around in these awesome IL2 planes, I have a new found respect for history's pilots. There is no doubt these games can inspire you to pick up books for research and understanding.

From my own American standpoint, you don't get a real appreciation for some of history's battles and sacrifices until you have flown a simulation in a F4F against 100 enemy planes in formation over Midway or Dive-bombed the Akagi though a hail of flak and zeros....or flown over the English channel in a Hurricane against waves of 110s and 109s ....

Unlike some books or movies, there's no romanticism from the victors up in the simulator. You can clearly experience the epic power of the Luftwaffe or the Japanese as the war played out and really appreciate the skill, persistence and SACRIFICE it took to defeat these powers.

You can see by the comments in this thread that people need to learn and understand their history. If simulators let you walk the shoes of those involved, one hopes you come away from the experience with a new respect and understanding for those involved. It certainly worked for me.

Much respect

Thanks Oleg

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

What do you have to do to get the status of a superpower? Usually act like a jerk, make a mess of other countries and then address them in a condescending way (and get away with it by having more guns). IMHO, the United States, Great Britain and Russia have all been superpowers at some point or another

So true

[nearmiss]

Novotny

You are correct about the history channel as far as accuracy is concerned.

The history channels = entertainment

That said I think one important issue is the fact that people are still getting alot of information, even if the i's and t's aren't getting dotted and crossed. As a student we were forced into the quagmire of detail, which is not memorable. I favor history any way it can be explained and people are interested to listen.

Ignorance of history is a detriment to organized societies. History must be a part of counsel for societies or they will repeat mistakes of the past. The study of history is invaluable.

I had a great history teacher in university, because he dramatically told the stories and recounted the events. His classes were always maxed out, and he nurtured in all his students a desire to know more. Then of course he had to test us by departmental tests. Tests that were the same old precise dates and detailed stuff we would all forget before the semester ended.

I favor the history channel, even for religious history. Religious history always shows always promote the 'create doubt" of creation theory. IMO, people who have half a brain can interpret the data and make their own minds are not influenced.

The series on Battlefield 360 on the Enterprise is very well done from an entertainment and historical standpoint. The major points most people will remember were very well covered. I've heard friends discuss various episodes and I was pretty amazed at how interested they were, and how ignorant they were of WW2 in the Pacific.

When I started IL2 I knew absolutely ZIP, NADA about the Soviet Air war. I've since read dozens of books and developed a real respect for the Soviets. A respect that I had not learned from all the negative banter of a lifetime I'd heard about Russia.

So, I think it's fair to say that no matter how history is taught I'm in agreement... unless it's propagandized to promote someone's agenda.

[Novotny]

Very good points, nearmiss.

[baronWastelan]

Originally Posted by Viking

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busine...me/405448.html

Software company 1C is asking the state for 500 million rubles ($16.8 million) to create a computer game simulator that will educate youth in patriotism, modernize the economy and rebuff those trying to falsify history.

The Communications and Press Ministry and 1C have jointly prepared a proposal for the creation of a series of military game simulators, a document that was prepared for a meeting of the presidential commission for modernizing the economy on April 29, a ministry official said. It wasn't presented, but the issue was discussed, he said, adding that 1C chief executive Boris Nuraliyev had demonstrated an aviation simulator to President Dmitry Medvedev.

The project's cost is 720 million rubles, according to the presentation. The Communications and Press Ministry is asking for 500 million rubles from the government, while 1C will come up with 200 million rubles and 20 million rubles will come from the Khanty-Mansiisk autonomous district, which is an initiator of the project, the official said.

The development of the core of the simulator will cost $5 million to $10 million, said Sergei Orlovsky, founder of Nival Network. Each game based on that engine will run an additional $1 million to $2 million.

The project needs state financing because it aims to stimulate high-tech production and create a product for export, while at the same time using the groundwork laid by the project to create a simulator for teaching pilots.

The goal of the project is to foster a sense of patriotism in children and shut out falsifications of history, the ministry official said. The project could be approved at the next modernization commission meeting, which will be dedicated to the development of Russian video games, said an official close to the leadership of the presidential commission.

The parameters of the project and state support are still being worked out, said an official in the presidential administration. The project is now being finalized, the ministry official said.

The project is interesting, but it is unclear whether state support is needed, presidential aide Arkady Dvorkovich said.

The project will become profitable within four years, its authors said. Sales are projected at 10 million copies, and the share of Russian games on the domestic market will grow 10 percent.

The secret to the project's success is 1C's experience in developing training simulators. The company's Il-2 Shturmovik game is one of the 25 best games ever, according to Imagine Games Network. It has been translated into 11 languages, and 1.3 million copies have been sold.

Representatives for 1C declined to comment.

Pretty much how the B-52s got started.

[fireflyerz]

Top band....

[SlipBall]

This is the program that I referred to here:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=14577&page=4

I often wondered if IL2 was developed using any of these government funds

[Romanator21]

Why are we assuming this means SoW BoB? 1C makes loads of historical combat games, most of which actually pertain to the Eastern Front. I don't know if a sim on the BoB is going to instill patriotism in Russians. Keep in mind that if 1C is making a game, it doesn't mean that it's Oleg's.

[Viking]

Its not necessarily BoB but I seriously doubt that the proposed “series of simulations” would bypass BoB with the worldwide record that Oleg´s Il-2 Sthurmovik have.

I hope that the proposal will get trough as there is only positive benefits for all involved.
One aspect is already explained in the article, educating the nation and the world in order to correct the cold war western view of the war effort of the CCCP and placing the nation Russia in its rightful place as a superpower in the world, and off course giving the citizens the true pride of their history.

The computer-tech spin-offs for Russia will be many. Heightened computer use and sale will enhance the market for developing hard- and software domestically, reinforcing the GNP and helping the export. Creating work for higher educated people and a motivation to get that education will create more schools and a need for educated teachers’ etc. etc!

So I am sure the state will get its money back with interest.