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Old 12-07-2009, 07:38 PM
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I will try it online right now against a spit, trk29 will fly the spit, I will let you know of the results
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:44 PM
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P-51D vs SpitIX
(p-51 won, but in a turning fight the spit will win by small difference now, the difference can be compared to that of a yak3 vs la5)

Blackouts play an important role (you will notice them a lot, fun fun fun), redouts are less frequent but are there.

Online points 1 kill = 5 points, 1 death = -1 point
- crash no kill problem still there but is less frequent

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Old 12-07-2009, 08:23 PM
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QQ the P-51 should be the HANDS down best plane in the game
Erm, no. Great, yes. But the fact that everyone thinks its the best is complete fooey. Going into that discussion is for another thread.

First off, I'd like to thank the devs for all their hard work and their patience for torture from all of us and the publishers

Anyway, the P-51D was a little better. It feels like the Spitfires are easiest to blackout in, but they feel more unstable... kinda weird since the 109 never seems to go into spin, though WWII pilots found it very unstable.

Something I find very important is that the zoom button will NOT WORK if re-assigned. I assigned it to down on the Dpad, tried square, etc. Nothing works except the default L2. There's also 2 options for zoom as well for some reason. I think the control list lists all the controls in all three modes.

I think that controller setups should be split between sim, realistic, and arcade because there are double options for a bunch of things.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:30 PM
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Erm, no. Great, yes. But the fact that everyone thinks its the best is complete fooey. Going into that discussion is for another thread.

First off, I'd like to thank the devs for all their hard work and their patience for torture from all of us and the publishers

Anyway, the P-51D was a little better. It feels like the Spitfires are easiest to blackout in, but they feel more unstable... kinda weird since the 109 never seems to go into spin, though WWII pilots found it very unstable.

Something I find very important is that the zoom button will NOT WORK if re-assigned. I assigned it to down on the Dpad, tried square, etc. Nothing works except the default L2. There's also 2 options for zoom as well for some reason. I think the control list lists all the controls in all three modes.

I think that controller setups should be split between sim, realistic, and arcade because there are double options for a bunch of things.
EVEN more important, when playing on SIM mode using the custom layout, the zoom will not work atall, even on the default L2. SIM players using a pad have always had to fly with the wireless aviator setup for pad option to give freedom to looking around without having to depress the R3 button but the downside was losing the zoom function & now it seems, you stillcant have a dedicated look around feature on R3 & have zoom when playing SIM?!?
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:47 PM
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Hey guys I tested out all the layouts they have 4 defaults now. I believe Gaijin got it right with layout 3 it is just like wireless AV8R layout except now rudder is L2 and R2 and throttle is L1 and R1 and you can set throttle to what ever you want it.

This will be my choice with pad and I should say you should try this.

To look you just move right stick and to get different views click it.

D-pad does Rockets bombs and flaps
Square zooms
X guns
triangle commands to flight ? I haven't tried this one yet
o map

the only thing is there is no trim button

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Old 12-07-2009, 10:57 PM
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QQ the P-51 should be the HANDS down best plane in the game
Like all planes they all have their strengths and weaknesses. In reality depending on the era the 51 wasn't nessarily the best plane it depended on a lot of factors.

Good to see people are still interested in this title. I wonder how many will actually convert over to flying IL2 1946...
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:12 PM
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AM I SERIOUSLY THE ONLY SIM PLAYER THAT'S BEEN CALLING FOR A NON-CLICKABLE RIGHT STICK LOOK AROUND FUNCTION ASWELL AS A WORKABLE ZOOM?????
Can no one find a work around with this so-called total customizable mapping feature?
As trk29 has documented, the best SIM pad layout is the default 3 map but the zoom is on the square button & so is completely impractible to use when scanning around or manouevring etc.
I have spent the evening copying that otherwise workable map to the custom page & wish to put the zoom to the L3 (thumbstick click as this is redundant on SIM in this map) but whatever is attempted, the f****** zoom (the most wanted mappable button for SIM players with pads)will NOT register, no matter what button you assign zoom to (but will register in arcade & realistic, the modes that don't even require this due to the padlock view). I have tried disabling one zoom button (as the map contains 2 zoom slots & 2 target cam slots), then the other, & even mirroring the same button to both zooms but IT WILL NOT WORK.

This was the only button needed for SIM players who wanted the dedicated Rightstick look around & it's beyond frustration that, still, it is the only function that can't be customized.
PLEASE HELP. I'm hoping it's just me missing something stupid here!!!

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Old 12-08-2009, 04:16 AM
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AM I SERIOUSLY THE ONLY SIM PLAYER THAT'S BEEN CALLING FOR A NON-CLICKABLE RIGHT STICK LOOK AROUND FUNCTION ASWELL AS A WORKABLE ZOOM?????
Can no one find a work around with this so-called total customizable mapping feature?
As trk29 has documented, the best SIM pad layout is the default 3 map but the zoom is on the square button & so is completely impractible to use when scanning around or manouevring etc.
I have spent the evening copying that otherwise workable map to the custom page & wish to put the zoom to the L3 (thumbstick click as this is redundant on SIM in this map) but whatever is attempted, the f****** zoom (the most wanted mappable button for SIM players with pads)will NOT register, no matter what button you assign zoom to (but will register in arcade & realistic, the modes that don't even require this due to the padlock view). I have tried disabling one zoom button (as the map contains 2 zoom slots & 2 target cam slots), then the other, & even mirroring the same button to both zooms but IT WILL NOT WORK.

This was the only button needed for SIM players who wanted the dedicated Rightstick look around & it's beyond frustration that, still, it is the only function that can't be customized.
PLEASE HELP. I'm hoping it's just me missing something stupid here!!!
Hey I tried to get the click on R3 to work for zoom and other buttons and I figured out the same thing as you it works on arcade and realistic but not sim. Hope fully Anton will read this and provide us with a answer.

So I don't know why the zoom function is not working.


EDIT: I just noticed something with the P-51. I remapped the custom and when I fly this plane with this layout the plane stalls just like before, if I pause the game and go back to default 3 mapping the plane doesn't stall.
All sensitivities stay the same... Weird.

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Old 12-09-2009, 12:26 AM
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QQ the P-51 should be the HANDS down best plane in the game
Uhhh...the P-51 is NOT the best dogfighter of WWII. Hate to burst your bubble but the P-51's main role was high altitude long range bomber escort. Under 5,000 feet, which is where most of the combat takes place in BoP, there are PLENTY of planes that should be dominating the P-51. It definitely needed a fix, for sure, but I don't know about the "best plane in the game".
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:46 PM
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You guys will love this:

* did not noticed screen tearing yet
* control custumization is great (about 5 new options for control setup, option for PC stick (my old logitech extreme3d works lol)
- Every button on the controller can be assigned whatever you want

* Flak is great, you feel the blast, it moves your plane. I got shot down by bullets from a ship, but the flak damaged a Bf 109 that I was chasing, he started smoking.

* no cockpit view for BF 10's or fw 190's
- p-51D-5 cockpit was not fixed (still has p-47)

*P-51 now flies better than the bf 109 (you can really notice this in turns)
* Fw 190 was slightly fixed, I think the p-51 turns a little better, and the gun platform way more stable than fw 190.

* blackouts are good, I have not gotten completely balcked out, but blackouts are there on both cockpit and virtual views (this is good news for me)

* I will try red outs, and machine and cannon separation in a bit.

(any other requests for things that I may check?)
I can definately say that the screen tearing is NOT FIXED unfornately. Maybe I'm being picky as it was the single most needed aspect to warrant attention IMO. Curiously it doesn't tear now until a few minutes into a flight, then it's easily as bad as it was.

Although personally disappointed by this, the custom layouts, flak, black & redouts are great. A worthy effort in need of praise & worth the wait!!!!
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