ok... who switched my B-17's armour for papier maché?

[House MD 221B]

Seems as though if they up-gun and up-armour the B-17 they need to reduce it's bombload to maintain balance.

No you're missing the point, its about getting it RIGHT, not shifting stuff to suit niceties... either your a company who makes realistic era flight sims, or your a company that slack off and cant be bothered to get it right. the admins have proved they recognise their mistakes and want to get them right. so balancing ruins games, nerfing things because it might be DIFFICULT for others...

if you take up an emil or spit mk II against a B-17 you're GOING to LOSE! it would have lost then it SHOULD lose now, which is why funnily enough Emils and Spitfires didnt get sent up against B-17s, 262s 163's Gustakvs, K-10s, FW 190s got sent up against them.

if you want to use an Emil or spit mk II, set the server to pre-41 planes only.

but dont nerf other planes e.g. 1945 planes, because you dont stand a chance in your 1940's plane.

[birdsofmay]

i've seen a few b-17 bombers and I am amazed by the feats the plane reached but I can almost make a hole in the plating with 1 punch

yes I pressed on the plating in a musem (yes I know I shouldn't) and a dent apeared its 3mm thick at the most so bullets enter at 1 side and leave at the other side. So the armor isnt that good it just has 12 turrets well 12 guns