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Old 09-28-2009, 03:18 PM
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Well, from a balance standpoint, it sort of seems to me you're screwed when you're trying to balance a side that built heavy bombers against a side that just didn't. If you really want to balance bomber vrs bomber missions then you really have to limit the Allies to medium bombers, just the A-10 and B-25, etc, and even there, the Germans really stopped seriously developing bombers after around 1941-42.

My thought would be, bring in the B-25, have it unlock with the B-17, and then limit heavy bombers to asymmetric scenarios built to handle them.
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:24 PM
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Well, from a balance standpoint, it sort of seems to me you're screwed when you're trying to balance a side that built heavy bombers against a side that just didn't. If you really want to balance bomber vrs bomber missions then you really have to limit the Allies to medium bombers, just the A-10 and B-25, etc, and even there, the Germans really stopped seriously developing bombers after around 1941-42.

My thought would be, bring in the B-25, have it unlock with the B-17, and then limit heavy bombers to asymmetric scenarios built to handle them.
nice idea apart from the fact that AGAIN one team shouldnt have something because the other team doesnt have the SAME... also last time i checked you could fly any nationality plane, so if one team has a B17, and the othe team cares, THEY can take a B-17.

and if u are playing one team allies one team axis (which would be cool) that is why the axis get the Arado, the 262, and the 163. 4 jet aircraft to the allies 0 jet aircraft (oh theres also the He-16something)

so the axis get interceptors and a JET BOMBER, and the allies get the B-17. but all of that doesnt matter when ANYONE can fly ANYTHING. so balancing again does NOT count as a valid reason to RUIN a perfectly good plane.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:14 PM
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nice idea apart from the fact that AGAIN one team shouldnt have something because the other team doesnt have the SAME... also last time i checked you could fly any nationality plane, so if one team has a B17, and the othe team cares, THEY can take a B-17.

and if u are playing one team allies one team axis (which would be cool) that is why the axis get the Arado, the 262, and the 163. 4 jet aircraft to the allies 0 jet aircraft (oh theres also the He-16something)

so the axis get interceptors and a JET BOMBER, and the allies get the B-17. but all of that doesnt matter when ANYONE can fly ANYTHING. so balancing again does NOT count as a valid reason to RUIN a perfectly good plane.
nothing personal House but the second you select an arado the other team screams NO jets !!! and its usually the guys flying the b17 this was the point i was trying to get over in another thread if a team is going to use a b17 that has been beefed up to take more damage then other piolts should be allowed to use jet bomber i mean if they did up the damage on a b17 it would be game over for the other team before the game even started i mean if it could take masses of damage drop the biggist payload in the game that would make for a pretty uneven game imho

this is why i dont play strike much and in my honest opioion i dont think b17s should b in strike i think they should find another game type to use them in the war b17s fly in huge formations and basicly carpet bombed a town factory complex etc i think it would be better if there was a coop mission where you all fly b17s together in formation and have ai fighters and good flak to play against ...just a thought i remember a game for my old pc b17 flying fortress used to love playing that with me mates so dont think im bashing the b17 its one of my fav ww2 planes

on a side note house have you seen SALLY B ?? i saw her at coventry airshow few years ago awsome sight
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:38 PM
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nothing personal House but the second you select an arado the other team screams NO jets !!! and its usually the guys flying the b17 this was the point i was trying to get over in another thread if a team is going to use a b17 that has been beefed up to take more damage then other piolts should be allowed to use jet bomber i mean if they did up the damage on a b17 it would be game over for the other team before the game even started i mean if it could take masses of damage drop the biggist payload in the game that would make for a pretty uneven game imho

this is why i dont play strike much and in my honest opioion i dont think b17s should b in strike i think they should find another game type to use them in the war b17s fly in huge formations and basicly carpet bombed a town factory complex etc i think it would be better if there was a coop mission where you all fly b17s together in formation and have ai fighters and good flak to play against ...just a thought i remember a game for my old pc b17 flying fortress used to love playing that with me mates so dont think im bashing the b17 its one of my fav ww2 planes

on a side note house have you seen SALLY B ?? i saw her at coventry airshow few years ago awsome sight
but the Arado can be bested by a good pilot, Jets arent the be all and end all, i dont understand why they moan, but frankly they can screw off, i pick the plane i want for the mission I want, and if someone else doesnt like it they can either shut up or leave, i paid £40 for this game and spent my time unlocking planes, so ill use whatever the hell I want, either get better at killing that particular plane, or change the setting to pre-1944 etc. etc.


I used to have that game to it was AWESOME if not a little buggy,

and yeah I saw Sally B at Duxford a few years back, so quiet as it came in for a landing. truly majestic.
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